HyveMynd
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Post by HyveMynd on Oct 14, 2012 18:09:30 GMT -8
I was thinking about that and I actually don't recall what it was that gave me that idea... I read that as JiB being a Star Wars hipster. "I knew Darth Vader was Luke and Leia's dad before anyone else did." ;D Whoops. SPOILERS!
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Post by fray on Oct 14, 2012 19:03:02 GMT -8
We stayed overnight in line for Return of the Jedi after seeing the late showing of Blue Thunder the night before. The line was very long by the time the first show started. After the show this grop of kids ran down the line for people waiting to get into the 2nd show screaming "Darth Vader dies! Darth Vader dies!". People were pissed!
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Post by jazzisblues on Oct 14, 2012 21:07:07 GMT -8
I was thinking about that and I actually don't recall what it was that gave me that idea... I read that as JiB being a Star Wars hipster. "I knew Darth Vader was Luke and Leia's dad before anyone else did." ;D Whoops. SPOILERS! Heh heh heh heh ... JiB
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Post by ericfromnj on Oct 15, 2012 6:59:13 GMT -8
I read that as JiB being a Star Wars hipster. "I knew Darth Vader was Luke and Leia's dad before anyone else did." ;D Whoops. SPOILERS! Heh heh heh heh ... JiB HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Empire started a 3 year argument as to whether Vader was lying or not that didn't get settled until Jedi came out. Vader's oath to the Emperor about "He will join us or die," was just enough to think the fatherhood thing might be a trick...
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Post by malifer on Oct 15, 2012 7:32:58 GMT -8
www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/spoilers-study_n_924413.htmlI'm going to commit Internet heresy here: People who whine about spoilers need to grow the fuck up. Okay, there are a few properties-- Fight Club, The Sixth Sense, arguably The Usual Suspects--where knowing the outcome takes away a very specific part of the watching experience. These are works where the revelation of the plot twist casts the entirety of the work in a completely different light. The vast majority of details labeled as spoilers have nothing like this sort of importance. I concur. Although I put Sixth Sense squarely in the bad movie with a twist category. I watched that film a second time and was bored. However I think Fight Club & Usual Suspects are great examples of a twist in a good movie. I have watched these several times because the story is engaging. Knowing spoilers doesn't ruin movies, but it sure as hell can rob people of the experience. The Battlestar Galactica thing was a minor offense with regards to spoilerage. If I'd said, "I can't believe that (censored), (censored) and (censored) are cylons!" that would be worth some rage. But there is only so much I can stand. Is it courteous to not run down the street screaming "Soylent Green is people"!? Yes. But (I realize this a broader scope) if you are just talking with friends, then words fly out of your face without a second thought. At work or in the company of strangers then most people turn on a filter that says don't make certain jokes, or talk about religion, politics, etc. A podcast where a group of friends get together to chat, answer questions, and generally babble to entertain people for free shouldn't be held accountable if the listeners don't like something they hear. The listeners are by all accounts eavesdropping on someone else's conversation. It is considerate of the podcast to try an accommodate those who are scared of the dreaded spoiler. But it's also ludicrous. There are enough movies and books to last many lifetimes. No one can be asked to compile a list of acceptable stories to talk about. There will always be someone who hasn't seen it. I have never seen Soylent Green or Titanic so no one talk about it EVER in case one day I decided to. That's nonsense. I haven't seen it. Keep Calm and Carry On. Oh and the BSG reference didn't matter because no incarnation of Battlestar Galactica is good. Sorry spoiler.
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Post by malifer on Oct 15, 2012 7:47:14 GMT -8
Chaosium doesn't hold a copyright, but they've registered "Call of Cthulhu" as a trademark for roleplaying games and supplements. It is from that trademark that they felt entitled to go after the Call of Cthulhu cards kickstarter. Charlie Krank, president of Chaosium, contacted the kickstarter, saying they were violating their trademark and copying their artwork. Here's an excerpt: "On advice of my lawyer, a specialist in intellectual property rights, I have begun gathering additional information on your project. On closer inspection, infringement on our trademark is not the only problem. It appears that you have also copied our copyrighted artwork, and re-worked it for your project. An example is below, showing our original art, created in 1983, and your current effort."
The images that were included actually altered our original image to make it look more like his and seems to make the claim that his company owns the rights to any images that resemble the Elder Sign. The elder sign design Shane created is based on the version described by August Dereleth. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Elder_sign_derleth.jpg is the example provided by Wikipedia, is ubiquitous, and used in tons of other media. If you're interested, you can read the entire update: www.kickstarter.com/projects/1460165270/cthulhu-playing-cards/posts/317074There's also an update where the issue gets resolved. Mr. Krank's behavior was bully-like at best. He gets no more of my money. Both Realms of Cthulhu and Trail of Cthulhu mention an agreement with Chaosium. Yeah I watched this unfold as it happened and I am in the same boat as Stu. Total bullshit. Charlie Krank President of Chaosium asked the Kickstarter for decks with chaosium back, then after the Kickstarter guys sent them a quote suddenly Charlie & Chaosium Lawyers realized maybe they should put the kibosh on the whole thing. Chaosium sent a "threatening" letter to the Kickstarter and before the kickstarter explain/refute/rebut Chaosium contacted Bicycle to tell them the Kickstarter didn't not own the rights to the Name or Art.
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Post by malifer on Oct 15, 2012 7:48:13 GMT -8
And talk about IP infringement, my new favorite shirt: Son of bitch what kind of store only sells t-shirts for 1 day! I want this shirt!
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Post by Kainguru on Oct 15, 2012 7:50:23 GMT -8
I concur. Although I put Sixth Sense squarely in the bad movie with a twist category. I watched that film a second time and was bored. Lol you lasted one sitting longer than me before feeling that way . . . and I'm not even going to mention the excruciatingly painful trudge that was 'The Village' . . . Oops I just did (it was like sooooo dull and drawn out and just . .. Just . . . Boring)
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Post by Stu Venable on Oct 15, 2012 11:32:50 GMT -8
I found out Darth Vader was Luke's father in the theater, and I think that may have been the first time I heard stories about spoilers and people intentionally spoiling a film.
The old anecdote: "I was standing in line, and a guy walked out of the theater and turned to his buddy and said, 'I can't believe Vader is Luke's father.'"
Heard it so many times from so many people is became an urban legend. A lot of you probably had the story told to you too.
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Post by ericfromnj on Oct 15, 2012 19:25:06 GMT -8
Oddly enough my aunt reminded me that my cousin saw it a week before and what his 10 year old mind obsessed over and sort of spoiled (though it didn't make sense at the time he said it) was "They turned Han Solo into gold!"
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Post by D.T. Pints on Oct 16, 2012 20:43:40 GMT -8
I found out Darth Vader was Luke's father in the theater, and I think that may have been the first time I heard stories about spoilers and people intentionally spoiling a film. That was probably Mark Hamil's shining acting moment for the whole damn trilogy. Thanks to Irvin Kershner. "No that's not possible!" Shit got real for my six year old ass!
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Post by Stu Venable on Oct 17, 2012 6:42:42 GMT -8
That was probably Mark Hamil's shining acting moment for the whole damn career. Fixed!
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Post by kaitoujuliet on Oct 17, 2012 7:37:47 GMT -8
That was probably Mark Hamil's shining acting moment for the whole damn career. Fixed! I'll dispute you there. He's become one heck of a voice actor in the time since.
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Post by jfever on Oct 17, 2012 9:02:39 GMT -8
That was probably Mark Hamil's shining acting moment for the whole damn career. Fixed! I'll dispute you there. He's become one heck of a voice actor in the time since. For real. His Joker is a fucking icon.
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Post by Kainguru on Oct 17, 2012 9:37:28 GMT -8
That was probably Mark Hamil's shining acting moment for the whole damn career. Fixed! I'll dispute you there. He's become one heck of a voice actor in the time since. Absolutely. Don't forget that his live action acting career was limited by the ongoing problems he has with the injuries and scars from that near fatal car accident just before the filming of Empire. Seriously the guy very nearly died and he had to have massive reconstructive surgery on his face . . . That's why they wrote in the scene at the start where he gets twatted across the face by that yeti with attitude.
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