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Post by ericfromnj on Feb 27, 2017 16:32:06 GMT -8
Yeah, he's the dude you love to hate. Is that the leper guy who rapes the young girl because he doesn't believe he is in a real world?
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Post by sbloyd on Feb 27, 2017 19:14:14 GMT -8
Yeah.
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Post by ericfromnj on Feb 27, 2017 19:49:38 GMT -8
Yeah I never got past that part of the first book.
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Post by shadrack on Feb 27, 2017 19:55:24 GMT -8
Recently finished, "The Art of Asking" by Amanda Palmer. Did the audiobook, she reads it, and put some songs and other stuff in. It's good.
Reading Neil Gaiman's, "Norse Mythology" to the kids. We should finish tomorrow or the next night.
I have a few books in the next up category, "Mistborn" by Sanderson, "Count Zero" by Gibson, or "Tales of the Ketty Jay" by Chris Wooding.
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Post by ayslyn on Feb 27, 2017 22:23:06 GMT -8
Yeah, he's the dude you love to hate. Is that the leper guy who rapes the young girl because he doesn't believe he is in a real world? Yes, and no. He doesn't rape her because he doesn't think he's in the real world. He justifies not having to be accountable for it because he decides that the Land can't be real, and therefor he's suffering from some sort of delusional episode, and only imagines that he raped someone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 3:37:21 GMT -8
Recommended by CADave, I read "The Rook" by Daniel O'Malley. It's a modern supernatural detective novel, with an interesting twist. The main character has amnesia, and as the story progresses, she realizes she really doesn't like the person she used to be. Fun book, that now has a sequel, "Stiletto" that I'm starting shortly. (After I get through a couple game books i need to read through to prep for a game) Have to say I wasn't too impressed with The Rook, it wasn't terrible but certain aspects of the story just came across as a little too contrived. Didn't know there was a sequel out but doubt I'll pick it up. Has anybody read the Lost Fleet series? I've just finished the first one and enjoyed it, lighter read than The Expanse and I could easily see myself ploughing through it.
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Post by ayslyn on Feb 28, 2017 4:46:33 GMT -8
My brother and I both listened to the Lost Fleet books. They're good stuff.
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Post by ericfromnj on Feb 28, 2017 11:26:58 GMT -8
Is that the leper guy who rapes the young girl because he doesn't believe he is in a real world? Yes, and no. He doesn't rape her because he doesn't think he's in the real world. He justifies not having to be accountable for it because he decides that the Land can't be real, and therefor he's suffering from some sort of delusional episode, and only imagines that he raped someone. Hence why I said a real world and not the real world
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Post by ayslyn on Feb 28, 2017 11:31:16 GMT -8
Yes, and no. He doesn't rape her because he doesn't think he's in the real world. He justifies not having to be accountable for it because he decides that the Land can't be real, and therefor he's suffering from some sort of delusional episode, and only imagines that he raped someone. Hence why I said a real world and not the real world No, I get that. However your statement came across to me meaning that his disbelief is what lead to the rape. It wasn't. He raped her, and then later on rationalized it.
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Post by sbloyd on Feb 28, 2017 11:31:57 GMT -8
Which is kinda the point of him. Donaldson was deconstructing the fantasy hero trope, making the "hero" of our story a (literally) pitiful, detestable man. Could he rise above himself and save a world that he didn't even believe existed?
Though it really needs the same kind of warning label on it that some antidepressants have ("This book may cause suicidal thoughts or actions").
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Post by ericfromnj on Feb 28, 2017 12:55:41 GMT -8
Hence why I said a real world and not the real world No, I get that. However your statement came across to me meaning that his disbelief is what lead to the rape. It wasn't. He raped her, and then later on rationalized it. Ah gotcha.
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Post by chronovore on Feb 28, 2017 19:55:39 GMT -8
Oh god, I LOVED Windup Girl. But it does do the thing I'm getting sick of in modern genre fiction - multiple POV characters. I finally finished this, and I liked it quite a bit better in its later half. Probably the point I switched to enjoying it was when I finally realized the only non-despisable character is the titular one. Everyone else, they're just shitting the bed and rationalizing their selfish choices. It was also a bit like Greg Bear's Blood Music, in that I wondered when the story would stop growing, how far the consequences of some bad choices would play out. Definitely a good piece of nonderivative, fascinating, and ornate SF.
Moving on to Laird Barron's The Croning. I've very much enjoyed his short fiction, The Beautiful Thing That Awaits Us All, and this will be my first long-form novel from him.
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Post by The Northman on Mar 2, 2017 0:07:19 GMT -8
I'm about a third of the way through 'The Name Of The Wind' and it's ok. It leans on some tropes I don't particularly care for and isn't particularly exciting, but it's engaging enough Man, I love Rothfuss' stuff. Some of the most beautifully-written genre fiction around. And once I realized how unreliable a narrator Kvothe is, the nature of the story took on a very different tone for me. +1 one in the 'Nope, couldn't do it,' camp for Thomas Covenant.
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Post by uncommonman on Mar 2, 2017 2:34:55 GMT -8
Which is kinda the point of him. Donaldson was deconstructing the fantasy hero trope, making the "hero" of our story a (literally) pitiful, detestable man. Could he rise above himself and save a world that he didn't even believe existed? Though it really needs the same kind of warning label on it that some antidepressants have ("This book may cause suicidal thoughts or actions"). Not that I condone his actions but he is also as broken as a man can be before he is transported to a magic land and restored to physical health (and don't forget erectile functionality, something he lacked) before he rapes her. He is trying to commit suicide by proxy when he walks in to town to pay his bills. He is interesting in the sense that you can't make a worse start for hero than a rapist lepper.
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Post by sbloyd on Mar 15, 2017 16:23:22 GMT -8
Did 'We Are Legion, We Are Bob' this past weekend. Entrepreneur engineer sells his startup, and flush with cash buys one of those freeze-your-head cryonics insurance deals. Next day gets run over by a car. Wakes up 150 years later as an AI, intended to run a Von Neumann probe in a space race to the stars...
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