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Post by sbloyd on May 13, 2017 8:13:16 GMT -8
Other news from Berlin regarding Vampire 5... - Vampire: Fifth Edition will come out as one core rulebook—meant to imply cross-compatibility with other 5E games—and two standalone setting books: Camarilla and Anarch. The setting books will be deluxe, photo-illustrated, and useful as a setting bible for WoD stuff all around.
- The new Vampire continuity splits off with "Beckett's Jyhad Diary."
- System focused on species-specific traits. (Not sure what this means per se. Maybe "clan specific" is a better wording?)
- V5 tracks "hunger" rather than a blood pool.
- The Elder vampires have felt the call to the East, summoned to hidden temples to fight the Gehenna Wars. (Save those who succumb to diablerie and gorging themselves to stay.) The Sabbat have stalked after them. But that's largely offstage now.
- The Second Inquisition: Mortal intelligence agencies have discovered the nature of the Kindred and are using technology to hunt them down.
- Anarchs have been exiled from the Camarilla, along with Caitiff and thin-bloods. A new emphasis on the masquerade. City hierarchies are even more drastic. (I always kind of saw Anarchs as not actually being part of the Cam already. I thought that was the whole point of them...)
- In the face of these challenges, Kindred society goes dark — vampire cities become more isolated, and there's a slow reversion to Dark Ages traditions.
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Post by sbloyd on May 13, 2017 8:18:19 GMT -8
Oh, and they're playtesting at Gencon. Maybe Stu Venable can get us a report.
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Post by sbloyd on May 13, 2017 10:34:03 GMT -8
More from the new overlords...
• Vampires are responsible for 9/11... apparently? • Garou have started the Impergium back up again • the new Inquisition is not just the US Gov't, it's also Pentex and the Technocracy. • a new Gypsies book is coming (I guess putting out a book with a racial slur as the name isn't a big deal to these folks)
• they polled the folks at the Grand Masquerade. Guess which clan was voted most preferred to play? If you didn't guess Malkavian, you guessed wrong.
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Post by sbloyd on May 13, 2017 11:14:12 GMT -8
More stuff I'm finding from the Berlin event...
- the Sabbat is definitely away, doing something in the Middle East, but I don't think they're behind the wars, per se
- Martin dubbed it as "welcome to the new Dark Ages", meaning that the global organizations are giving in and much more isolated city-states are the norm (hmmm... I'm undecided on this whole thing, it could end in a more flexible setting, but one of the main things which differentiated Masq from Requiem was the global organizations instead of isolated clusters and I hope it'll remain to an extent, although I'm not necessarily against some curbing back)
- the Cam was forced to re-evaluate it's "everyone in" policy and effectively gave the streets to the Anarchs which are bound only by the 1st tradition, the Masquerade. Now, the Cam is more like an elite club, for which you'll get to be a member if you behave well and the main theme is "the privileged few against the unwashed masses". He also mentioned neo-feudalism as a strong theme. (weeeeel... it certainly plays into the current zeitgeist, so it might help making it relevant to new gamers, which is good. I'm mostly okay with it, if executed well.)
- some more talk about the importance of visual identity by Carl. In the age of surveillance, Masquerade is even more critical and vampires have two visual identities, one "for the street" and one for elysium, when they can revel in their monstrous nature (so no changeling-like).
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Post by sbloyd on May 13, 2017 11:20:04 GMT -8
One guy mentions how Blood is working now -
"Blood Pool is gone. It was described as a gas meter and thus not very sexy. In its place is an elegant and well thought out system relating how you choose to handle hunger to the likelihood of frenzy. You will have composure as a resource. You can opt to spend this when faced with a situation where you want to resist doing something eg feeding at the sight of blood. If you spend it however you get a red hunger die or more in your pools (for probably all your rolls) which will act to increase your chance of entering frenzy. If you dont, you do something you dont want to, avoiding compulsion, but you will have more composure when the chance you frenzy comes up, and less hunger, meaning less likely to frenzy. Similar mechanics will replace Rage and other power supply traits in the core books for those games."
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Post by Monkeyfun Dave on May 13, 2017 13:16:42 GMT -8
Oh, and they're playtesting at Gencon. Maybe Stu Venable can get us a report. Actually I think the Dead Gamers Society may be running that at GenCon, and they're local to us in SoCal. They may have the materials already.
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Post by sovereigncitizenkane on May 13, 2017 16:13:40 GMT -8
More from the new overlords... • Vampires are responsible for 9/11... apparently? • Garou have started the Impergium back up again • the new Inquisition is not just the US Gov't, it's also Pentex and the Technocracy. • a new Gypsies book is coming (I guess putting out a book with a racial slur as the name isn't a big deal to these folks) • they polled the folks at the Grand Masquerade. Guess which clan was voted most preferred to play? If you didn't guess Malkavian, you guessed wrong. I'm lost for words. I honestly don't know how to address how much I hate this.
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Post by sbloyd on May 13, 2017 16:21:55 GMT -8
Which? The idea of Pentex, the government, and the Technocracy being straight up allies? That part I dislike. Its something that is old news - the oarts of the Syndicate that were allied with Pentex are kaput. The Gypsies book? Yeah, that's repugnant. The Impergium might have been exaggerated depending on which rumours you listen to, same with the 9/11 thing. We'll see on those...
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Post by sovereigncitizenkane on May 13, 2017 16:32:12 GMT -8
Which? The idea of Pentex, the government, and the Technocracy being straight up allies? That part I dislike. Its something that is old news - the oarts of the Syndicate that were allied with Pentex are kaput. The Gypsies book? Yeah, that's repugnant. The Impergium might have been exaggerated depending on which rumours you listen to, same with the 9/11 thing. We'll see on those... It's pretty much all of it. I can only imagine Gyspy is part of WW's new need for shock value, and the rest of it is just a "why would you do this?" An Impergium would be the worst idea the Garou have had since the War of Rage. And the need for all lore to converge is just...I don't know. I don't have words for it.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 3:45:14 GMT -8
I can't wait for the bitching to start about the hunger dice. "Why do I need special dice!?" Was something I saw all the time with FFG's games, and I bet it drives away the old school crowd who rebelled against CoD as a replacement to OWoD.
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Post by sbloyd on May 14, 2017 4:45:34 GMT -8
The main thing that drove me away from CoD was the simple fact that it wasn't oWoD. I kneejerked against change.
I dont think theyve said whether Hunger or Rage dice will be special a la FFG's dice, or just need to be a different colour so theyre easy to identify but still standard d10s.
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Post by sbloyd on May 14, 2017 13:11:40 GMT -8
Quote from a playtester in Berlin -
"In this incarnation, Hunger comes from Rousing the Blood. Max of that is five. At the end of each scene, you roll your Rouses, successes add to the Hunger track that goes to 5 as well. Hunger is a number of dice on every dice pool that is designated with a special mark, triggering compulsions of the vampiric nature if they roll a 1. To ignore those, you can spend Composure. That is the same dice pool you use to avoid a Frenzy. Hunger is removed by Feeding. The better blood, the more hunger you have. But you can never really sate the Hunger, unless you fully gorge yourself in blood.
Botch is no longer a thing. And if you only score a success beneath the required number, you can succeed at a cost."
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 21:32:59 GMT -8
Quote from a playtester in Berlin - "In this incarnation, Hunger comes from Rousing the Blood. Max of that is five. At the end of each scene, you roll your Rouses, successes add to the Hunger track that goes to 5 as well. Hunger is a number of dice on every dice pool that is designated with a special mark, triggering compulsions of the vampiric nature if they roll a 1. To ignore those, you can spend Composure. That is the same dice pool you use to avoid a Frenzy. Hunger is removed by Feeding. The better blood, the more hunger you have. But you can never really sate the Hunger, unless you fully gorge yourself in blood. Botch is no longer a thing. And if you only score a success beneath the required number, you can succeed at a cost." So its just a different colored dice that makes you frenzy or do other bad things if you roll a 1? Do these dice replace your standard D10 or are they in addition to your pool? Honestly, I like the change from blood pool to hunger. I think it fits more thematically and should be easier on the cognitive load (no longer do you need to track thresholds for hunger, etc). Should the system work well, it may even be something you can port into VtR. I'll be interested to see where things go with it.
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Post by sbloyd on May 15, 2017 5:54:16 GMT -8
I don't know. I *suspect* they replace the standard dice in your pool. This is probably how they'll end up handling Rage and Paradox for Garou and Mages, too.
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Post by Probie Tim on May 15, 2017 6:22:56 GMT -8
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