HyveMynd
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Post by HyveMynd on May 29, 2017 6:10:53 GMT -8
As far as I can see, there are no age bonuses or penalties of any kind in 5e. And since this is in the 5e thread, that's the system I assume we're talking about.
So if you want to play a waifish, 13-year old magical girl anime wizard, knock yourself out. Your age will have absolutely no effect on your game stats.
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Post by EricaOdd on May 29, 2017 6:16:32 GMT -8
And your GM may enforce a minimum age and age penalties. I'm only saying that I'd be flexible depending on the character concept. Someone else might not be as open to the idea of a teen wunderkind.
The problem with creating a new race in 5e is making sure it's balanced to the others. Savage Worlds has race creation rules that all PC races adhere to. A given GM might let you use that to make a fey, waif-like race. 5e doesn't have that option.
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Post by EricaOdd on May 29, 2017 6:20:45 GMT -8
As far as I can see, there are no age bonuses or penalties of any kind in 5e. Which is weird, since ghosts in 5e harken back to 1e in that they can age a character as one of their special attacks. Ok, so my character is aged 20 years, but there are no age penalties, so... she's a bit grayer and has a few slight laugh lines but there are no in-game effects. Pointless!
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Post by ilina on May 29, 2017 6:23:02 GMT -8
i can really play a waifish 13 year old magical girl anime wizard prodigy who goes on frequent and consistent chain of difficult adventures for a year of "independent study" and climbs from 1st level apprentice to 20th level archmage during that time? i totally want to do that. if i can also put her in a gothic lolita dress or put her in a pair of pajamas instead of a robe, you have me sold on my next variant human character.
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Post by Kainguru on May 29, 2017 6:24:58 GMT -8
Oh God, what have we done!!! Face-Palm
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Post by EricaOdd on May 29, 2017 6:32:22 GMT -8
Yeah... in any RPG I can think of, and I've been gaming for 35+ years, your character's fashion sense (or lack of it) is even less relevant than their age...
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HyveMynd
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Post by HyveMynd on May 29, 2017 6:37:31 GMT -8
Sure. Play whatever character you want ilina. Just try to be a team player when it comes to the game's tone and setting. In other words, don't shoehorn in the fricking anime trapings if no one else at the table wants it or if it doesn't fit. If the group has agreed to play a gritty, street level fantasy game reminiscent of Mordheim, don't be Cardcaptur Sakura (or whatever) in a frilly little sailor suit outfit.
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Post by ilina on May 29, 2017 6:40:05 GMT -8
the real meat of a ghosts Horrifying Visage is the Frightened Condition. the Aging Portion is useless and can easily be ignored. characters don't even have maximum ages, just typical ages. and players, being allowed to describe their character as they please, could say the aging effect has no impact on their character's appearance.
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Post by ilina on May 29, 2017 6:59:51 GMT -8
Sure. Play whatever character you want ilina . Just try to be a team player when it comes to the game's tone and setting. In other words, don't shoehorn in the fricking anime trapings if no one else at the table wants it or if it doesn't fit. If the group has agreed to play a gritty, street level fantasy game reminiscent of Mordheim, don't be Cardcaptur Sakura (or whatever) in a frilly little sailor suit outfit. if i were playing a Teenage Female Wizard in a more medieval setting. i likely wouldn't go for the frilly sailor suit unless wizard academies or bardic colleges were a thing, or public schools at the very least. i would probably go for a less excessively decorated and more heavily toned down form of the porcelain doll look with s lot less frills and without hip widening petticoats or would probably go with a simple 2 piece pair of pajamas worn with a simple pair of slippers or if she were older but still teenage, i could go with a modified priest's or monk's robe, a maid's outfit or a waitresses attire, dependant on the character's background beyond and before becoming a wizard. it doesn't have to be a frilly sailor outfit, just has to be cute but also of simple design and easy to move in.
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Post by ilina on May 29, 2017 7:11:47 GMT -8
i actually once played a 15 year old wizard who started her apprenticeship at 9 under a Scullery Maid and started doing Scullery work as early as 13. essentially, she paid for her lessons from said scullery maid wizard by working as a scullery maid for the same noblewoman. kind of a passing of the torch. her maid mentor was about to retire soon and wanted to live in peace, so she spent roughly 6 years training an apprentice, who took over her duties after the third year of apprenticeship.
her mentor was eventually framed for the mistresses death, leaving the young Scullery forced to Adventure, she still wore her maid uniform and slave collar to remind herself of the harsh apprenticeship she went through. the mentor taught her how to read and write, how to do chores, how to cast spells, and some basic adventuring skills she picked up hunting vampires before she became a maid. so the apprentice, already had a head start in the art of vampire hunting.
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HyveMynd
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Post by HyveMynd on May 29, 2017 7:14:07 GMT -8
I DID say play whatever character you want, and age and appearance of a character have no effect on mechanics in 5e. If none of the other players have a problem with a teenage wizard in a maid's outfit, then whatever.
All I'm saying is that if the other players AREN'T cool with it, you'll have to compromise. EVERYONE at the table should be having fun, and sometimes that means reigning it in, toning it down, or not getting exactly what we want.
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Post by ilina on May 29, 2017 7:40:54 GMT -8
I DID say play whatever character you want, and age and appearance of a character have no effect on mechanics in 5e. If none of the other players have a problem with a teenage wizard in a maid's outfit, then whatever. All I'm saying is that if the other players AREN'T cool with it, you'll have to compromise. EVERYONE at the table should be having fun, and sometimes that means reigning it in, toning it down, or not getting exactly what we want. the group didn't have problems with the Teenage Ex Scullery Wizard. in fact, i worked with the GM to design a servant background using Acolyte as a Base. she was fun in the fact she wasn't a typical anime teenager, but rather, she was a scullery maid with an overactive imagination who believed she was talking with her mistresses ghost, it was a hallucination roleplayed by the GM to make it more authentic. in fact, the GM inserted vital party clues into her hallucinations in a Perception-Esque fashion. decent rolls on perception and investigation rolls were narrated as lucky hallucinations, same with lucky dodges and close saves. she was a bit rude for a maid, in fact, her potential for magic was tied to her vivid and overactive imagination. her charisma wasn't the highest because she was a bit odd, which is unusual for me, but she had fun with narrative hallucinations. take the protagonist of perception, and imagine a 15 year old slave girl turned scullery maid and given wizard levels and you have the character. she was fun to play, mostly because i liked coming up with how her hallucinatons and overactive imagination were lucky for her.
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Post by EricaOdd on May 29, 2017 7:44:52 GMT -8
Try not to get so hung up on what they wear. The character could go about in an old burlap sack and it wouldn't have any effect on the character or the game.
I'm sorry if I sound judgy, but not everyone wants to hear intricate descriptions of how provocatively dressed your tween girl character is. It can be off-putting. I am trying to be sensitive and accepting of your preferences, but that is a two-way street, IMO. Please understand that in general people are made uneasy by those kinds of descriptions of even fictional young girls, and comport yourself accordingly.
Otherwise, as far as who your character is and what they can do... You do you and have fun.
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Post by sbloyd on May 29, 2017 8:33:51 GMT -8
As they said in Jurassic Park, we got so hung up on how to do something, we never stopped to think IF we should do something.
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Post by Kainguru on May 29, 2017 10:04:56 GMT -8
Try not to get so hung up on what they wear. The character could go about in an old burlap sack and it wouldn't have any effect on the character or the game. I'm sorry if I sound judgy, but not everyone wants to hear intricate descriptions of how provocatively dressed your tween girl character is. It can be off-putting. I am trying to be sensitive and accepting of your preferences, but that is a two-way street, IMO. Please understand that in general people are made uneasy by those kinds of descriptions of even fictional young girls, and comport yourself accordingly. Otherwise, as far as who your character is and what they can do... You do you and have fun. Nope, you're NOT being judgy in the slightest - more astutely observant. This has been a loooooooooong standing forum 'debate', or rather 'reluctantly persistent topic of conversation'. ilina, as I've said before We (the Royal We being the forum users as a body politic) are a tolerant bunch of cunts . . . up to a point. Remember I said We'd tell you to reign it in when you, yet again, crossed that thin and wobbly line of 'appropriate' vs your fanboy fixation? This is one of those times - 'Reign it in'. Seriously dude we don't wanna discuss pupenda revealing sailor costumes on under age girls in any thread, let alone this thread. I mean, come on, where in the world of fuck buggery shit fuckle does 'What I (still) don't like about DnD 5e' cater for this? It really has been a thin stretch of very very loosened associations to take it from 'DragonBorn Suck' to 'Sailormoon the Wankfest' - but you did it, you really did it and I unintentionally helped you. I am a dirty, dirty enabler and feel great shame* Aaron * the last time I felt this dirty sort of shame was after cracking one off the wrist to Debbie Harry from Blondie, only to discover she is the same age as my mum .... that truely ruined my day
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