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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2018 4:23:09 GMT -8
I saw it and got what I expected (plus boobs, that was a surprise I wish I hadn’t gotten while at work). I don’t regret watching it, but it wasn’t shadowrun really either. The flavor of magic is wrong (wands aren’t doomsday devices in SR), the corp influence was missing, the cops were government and not contractors, etc.
Maybe the world will blow my socks off in the sequel, but I didn’t really find it super compelling in Bright.
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Post by Kainguru on Jan 5, 2018 5:48:03 GMT -8
I read it was going to be a sequel. Possibly a series of films, like Harry Potter and Star Wars et al Aaron
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Post by The Northman on Jan 10, 2018 6:22:34 GMT -8
How do the different gangs keep randomly finding them? Why don’t they just fight back by throwing the wand at people and letting them catch it and explode? Why change clothes just so you can corner yourself in a strip club and get a few dozen people killed? How do you call in a ‘possible bright,’ watch her not only hold onto a wand without exploding but blow up a freakin’ car with it, then still scream, surprised, ‘You’re a bright?!’ later in the movie.
And, lest we forget, a fucking ‘Kick Me’ sign?
Painfully dumb writing. How he shat out Chronicle I’ll never know.
There’s ‘don’t think too hard,’ and then there’s ‘turn your brain off completely.’ That might be some folks’ jam, but to me it’s the mark of a bad movie.
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Post by chronovore on Jan 11, 2018 7:47:23 GMT -8
How do the different gangs keep randomly finding them? Why don’t they just fight back by throwing the wand at people and letting them catch it and explode? Why change clothes just so you can corner yourself in a strip club and get a few dozen people killed? How do you call in a ‘possible bright,’ watch her not only hold onto a wand without exploding but blow up a freakin’ car with it, then still scream, surprised, ‘You’re a bright?!’ later in the movie. And, lest we forget, a fucking ‘Kick Me’ sign? Painfully dumb writing. How he shat out Chronicle I’ll never know. There’s ‘don’t think too hard,’ and then there’s ‘turn your brain off completely.’ That might be some folks’ jam, but to me it’s the mark of a bad movie. - It's a wand, little is known about them; I assume High Elf Noomi Rapace finds them through magic. Didn't they say there's a tracker? As for the bands, the dialog's iffy, but I recall someone deducing what's happening on their home turf, and then just following the carnage?
- The wand is being awkwardly carried in a knapsack through most of the film, and it's not known if there's splash damage for the area effect of it when a non-Bright gets hold of it…?
- Was Smith on-site when the Manic Pixie Dream Girl gets ahold of the wand and splats the car? It's… aaaarrguably possible he didn't put two and two together if he wasn't there, or even if he's still just wired from everything else that immediately preceded it.
I enjoyed the ride.
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Post by The Northman on Jan 11, 2018 9:02:49 GMT -8
This is my last one, because I'm not out to piss in the cheerios of the folks who enjoyed it. I'm just annoyed that the setup was so wasted.
(1) I meant the gangs. They literally - ork and Barrio alike - keep randomly finding the party. I don't have an issue with the elves finding them.
(2) Smith's character sees what happens when a gang member picks it up. That guy and some folks around him seem to get disintegrated, but that's about it. Considering he tells two of the dozens of people in that strip club that they should leave prior to the carnage-fest he clearly knows he's bringing into a thickly populated establishment (despite having adopted a disguise), collateral damage doesn't appear to be a motivator for him.
(3) Yeah. he's literally on top of her. I believe screams 'she's got a wand,' and then lasers from it blow up the car next to him.
And that orc leader killing Jacoby even after the big reveal of his son having been saved by him? Did we really just go along on this ride full of racism allegories for the climactic sequence to kick off by verifying exactly what every racist asshole in the movie prior to now has said about orcs being savages? And why would Shrek exist in a world where fantastical things are real? What in the world would be the point of that entire franchise? And The Alamo?
That's not even bringing in the fact that David Ayer made one of the most technically accurate cop action movies with End of Watch then let this happen, along with one of the better 'corrupt v. honorable' cop flicks in Training Day.
I blame writing 100%. Yes, Landis kind of a douche, but I love Dirk Gently so it's not about that.
Again, I'm annoyed because there was a lot of potential. I just thought it was a pretty terrible film.
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Post by Kimi on Jan 30, 2018 0:28:29 GMT -8
Ok. I finally sat down and watched this. Holy crap was it horrible. The writing was TERRIBLE and all over the place. I really wanted to like it since the setting was interesting, but it was just badly done.
And the Leeloo Multipass elf bugged the shit out of me. There were three women of note in the film: the evil powerful bitch trope, the selfish cop who is going to murder people so she and the other cops can sell off the wand, and ONE GOOD FEMALE ELF... who randomly doesn't talk for most of the film. No other elves have trouble talking, and it is revealed that she can talk, but didn't because she didn't trust them... but even after she reveals that she can talk she barely does? How does that make any sense? The writers just wanted helpless muguffin leeloo multipass elf for the boys to save repeatedly. It's easier to make her seem helpless if she cant talk. Then they give her some mystery magic curse/disease that is never explained to keep her ineffective and helpless after she shows that she can bring people back from the dead. I guess the only good female is one who brings the men back to life so they can be heroes.
Oh... and my FAVORITE MOMENT was when the random human dude predictably ends up being a bright and is 10x as effective as the female multipass elf who has actually had some training in magic. Because of course.
There was lots of other crappy writing in it and lose ends that just kind of drifted off. It's too bad. As a concept it had a lot of potential and I think that the main orc was well acted.
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Post by OFTHEHILLPEOPLE on Jan 30, 2018 9:27:19 GMT -8
It's so funny watching the reviews for this. It's either loved or loathed with no middle ground.
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Post by Zaszamonde on Jan 30, 2018 12:17:25 GMT -8
I'd say the plot was somewhat screwed from the beginning by having Will Smith. He's gonna be the hero. Period. I was a fan of the film, but it has obvious flaws.
Probably the best "review" of the movie is that I'd like to see a sequel, or better yet, a series based in the world. It was interesting enough for it to pull me in, but the story wasn't amazing.
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Post by mrmanowar on Jan 30, 2018 19:31:56 GMT -8
Ok. I finally sat down and watched this. Holy crap was it horrible. The writing was TERRIBLE and all over the place. I really wanted to like it since the setting was interesting, but it was just badly done. And the Leeloo Multipass elf bugged the shit out of me. There were three women of note in the film: the evil powerful bitch trope, the selfish cop who is going to murder people so she and the other cops can sell off the wand, and ONE GOOD FEMALE ELF... who randomly doesn't talk for most of the film. No other elves have trouble talking, and it is revealed that she can talk, but didn't because she didn't trust them... but even after she reveals that she can talk she barely does? How does that make any sense? The writers just wanted helpless muguffin leeloo multipass elf for the boys to save repeatedly. It's easier to make her seem helpless if she cant talk. Then they give her some mystery magic curse/disease that is never explained to keep her ineffective and helpless after she shows that she can bring people back from the dead. I guess the only good female is one who brings the men back to life so they can be heroes. Oh... and my FAVORITE MOMENT was when the random human dude predictably ends up being a bright and is 10x as effective as the female multipass elf who has actually had some training in magic. Because of course. There was lots of other crappy writing in it and lose ends that just kind of drifted off. It's too bad. As a concept it had a lot of potential and I think that the main orc was well acted. I was gonna reply, but...Kimi said it better...
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Post by chronovore on Jan 31, 2018 5:52:37 GMT -8
But are we certain that Noomi-Elf was evil? Or was she just ambivalent about inferior lifeforms?
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Post by shadrack on Jan 31, 2018 18:45:19 GMT -8
I watched it. I'll watch the sequel. It had plenty of problems, but I was entertained.
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Post by Zaszamonde on Mar 14, 2018 6:07:57 GMT -8
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Post by Stu Venable on Mar 15, 2018 21:03:00 GMT -8
No way Will Smith is going to do a series. Maybe if they recast. But I also only saw info of a sequel.
I wast to know about the dragon infestation in LA!
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Post by chronovore on Mar 15, 2018 22:53:58 GMT -8
No way Will Smith is going to do a series. Maybe if they recast. But I also only saw info of a sequel. I wast to know about the dragon infestation in LA! For myself, I was referring to a series focusing on different characters, maybe even handled as an anthology series. Even so, the Alien Nation TV series featured the same two characters but played by different characters than the movie had featured.
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Post by SirGuido on Mar 16, 2018 12:27:01 GMT -8
No way Will Smith is going to do a series. Maybe if they recast. But I also only saw info of a sequel. I wast to know about the dragon infestation in LA! For myself, I was referring to a series focusing on different characters, maybe even handled as an anthology series. Even so, the Alien Nation TV series featured the same two characters but played by different characters than the movie had featured. And was better IMHO
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