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Post by tomes on Sept 2, 2015 15:14:35 GMT -8
And the Happy Jacks community staggers, scathed, but not maimed, from the depths of another bloody skirmish. Everyone learns something, of one sort or another, and in the end it appears that most, if not all the party has survived.
+1,000 xp
Roll on treasure chart for D, O, U, C, H, and Ex10.
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Post by SirGuido on Sept 2, 2015 18:18:54 GMT -8
You can hate me its ok, you can't hate me more than I hate myself. Yeah... depression sucks sometimes.
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Post by kaitoujuliet on Sept 3, 2015 6:09:34 GMT -8
What's going on (mostly on Twitter) between the most vocal folks on either side of this issue is unproductive and horrible. I sure as fuck don't want that here. I've been barely online for the past couple of weeks, and I don't do Twitter anyway, but I'm curious about this; can someone fill me in on what this social media war is about??
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Post by tomes on Sept 3, 2015 6:51:45 GMT -8
I think it's about this type of thing where a group in the minority is trying to call out some injustice, and many in the majority group (esp those that would feel like they aren't part of the problem, be it allies or agnostic) is feeling that they are being unfairly targeted as the bad guys. Something along the line of reverse discrimination-type arguments.
A la: Black Lives Matter vs All Lives Matter
Or: Trans interrupting a liberal-leaning candidate (such as Bernie Sanders) and the liberals there complaining about how they are better allies, go fight the right, not here not now.
(Notice I did not place opinions here; if you have opinions on these matters, try posting on a board where the purpose is for those discussions; or if it's related to gaming in that manner: I'd recommend starting a new thread so whomever posted this one can get actual answers to the original question... I think there was at least one or two of those, right?)
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Post by Kainguru on Sept 3, 2015 8:12:02 GMT -8
Forresst Grouchiness/grumpiness/curmudgeoning(?) is a deity-(or absense thereof)-of-choice-damned basic human right and a rightful entitlement once you're old enough to say: 'well, I remember when . . .'. I, for one, wish the UN would just hurry up and amend the Charter of Human Rights to include this necessary form of social expression . . . Aaron PS: that's just my way of saying 'grumpy'='that's cool'
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Post by SirGuido on Sept 3, 2015 9:45:47 GMT -8
What's going on (mostly on Twitter) between the most vocal folks on either side of this issue is unproductive and horrible. I sure as fuck don't want that here. I've been barely online for the past couple of weeks, and I don't do Twitter anyway, but I'm curious about this; can someone fill me in on what this social media war is about?? I think he may be referring to #gamergate
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Post by sbloyd on Sept 3, 2015 10:06:47 GMT -8
That was my thought, too, but I hesitated to utter that eldritch phrase lest we call up something we cannot put down.
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Post by fredrix on Sept 3, 2015 10:31:46 GMT -8
Humph, they're not even real gamers.
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Post by Kainguru on Sept 3, 2015 10:42:24 GMT -8
There is more than just #gamergate out there now - #gamergate was just a symptom of much deeper divisions that have nothing to do with games. I don't want list the issues in case someone is an avid adherent of one side or another and this flares up again. It's enough to say that common 'arguement' used is: "you (belonging to group x by choice or biology or lifestyle) are oppressing me because you aren't like me (belonging to group y), you shouldn't be allowed to be [like group x] because your mere existence - even though you are tolerant and sympathetic to the concerns of [group y] - is an affront and threatens my right to express myself as [group y]. It's my right as [group y] to demand you be like [group y] and any objection is just you being oppressive'. Yes this is internet 'logic' - there's a post on another friends forum (non gaming) that says: "if I demand to have sex with you and you refuse because you don't find me personally attractive then you are oppressing me and that's the same as raping me". That was a serious post by someone pushing an agenda that had nothing to do with the forum - which, incidentally, is a support forum for persons (like my friend) who have struggled with their weight and have taken the decision to change their lifestyle radically for the sake of their own health (given my friend's mother has just had a bypass op meaning that he runs a high risk of heart disease in the future). Aaron
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Post by Fiona on Sept 3, 2015 11:06:05 GMT -8
Humph, they're not even real gamers. I am, actually. Since Pong. Now please, let's leave this topic alone.
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Post by SirGuido on Sept 3, 2015 11:46:55 GMT -8
Humph, they're not even real gamers. They can game shame if they want to, and we'll leave those friends behind. Cause those friends game shame and if they game shame well they're no friends of mine.
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Post by fredrix on Sept 3, 2015 12:31:45 GMT -8
Humph, they're not even real gamers. I am, actually. Since Pong. Now please, let's leave this topic alone. Haha! I knew I'd get you with that one. Sorry I couldn't resist a bit of good old-fashioned trolling
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Post by kaitoujuliet on Sept 3, 2015 12:34:31 GMT -8
Ah. I thought maybe there was some new blowup that I'd missed.
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Post by Fiona on Sept 3, 2015 12:35:51 GMT -8
Kudos sir.
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Post by Stu Venable on Sept 3, 2015 12:53:29 GMT -8
Well, there's currently one -- with many of the same players -- going on about Drivethrurpg.
A product got put up -- called Tournament of Rapists, I think? Apparently it didn't have the "adults only" tag (which I didn't even know existed), and when it was put on the site, it was announced in some sort of "what's new" email or notification.
Many people wanted it taken down. One publisher pulled all their stuff from DTRPG and started their own pdf store in protest.
It is my understanding that the publisher agreed to take it down.
Now, shell-shocked from all this, OBS (the parent company of DTRPG) is going to add a "report" feature, where things will be temporarily taken down and reviewed by OBS staff. And I'm sure this system won't be abused by both sides in this controversy. </sarcasm>
I've received two emails (through DTRPG) from publishers who are pretty sure this reporting system will end their presence on DTRPG.
I predict OBS staff will eventually ignore these reports.
I wish they'd put up a "report" function for shitty products.
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