radzap
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Post by radzap on Sept 7, 2015 22:54:09 GMT -8
Guess I was creepy child because my other preoccupation was the infamous 'Charge of the Light Brigade'... Precisely what's so creepy about this?
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starwar
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Post by starwar on Sept 8, 2015 5:39:21 GMT -8
Starwar, the reason why someone shoots you matters less than the bullets in your body. The trauma of being threatened with lethal violence is no less because it is a means to an end. Armed criminals aren't so stable or predictable, so we can't really trust that he just wants the money like in the movies. Equal chance of him getting spooked and shooting you. But whatever, clearly almost dying doesn't rate on your charts. Also, you might consider that instead of taking a game based around combat and neutering it, maybe someone susceptible to violence should not be playing D&D. There is a social contract in gaming, and changing that contract for a single player is kind of weird. It's one thing at the system choosing stage, but another to sign up for a game and than have problems with the things you knew were there to begin with. Sensativity is one thing, neutering your game is another. In simpler terms: Why did you sign up for a nudist retreat when you think naked people are offensive? It's as if there is this race to the bottom of who is the most inclusive. It is the job of the individual to make sure they are right for the activity, not to expect that everyone already there will conform to them. Just like you don't have to buy a game you don't like, you don't have to play in one that is not right for you. What you shouldn't do is show up and try and get everyone else to change to better fit your needs. In the immediacy. I imagine coming to in the hospital, I would want to know why I got shot if someone had shot me. I originally thought you meant being threatened with being shot not actually being shot. And as you put it "giant cannon", then I am not expecting that helpless security guard to live. That makes your question of same power even less similar. Since I said less similar maybe I should clarify for you, similar but different does not mean unequivocally more or less. I am now satisfied with our clarity.
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Post by Kainguru on Sept 8, 2015 6:43:42 GMT -8
When one is referring to rape as an 'act of power' it's from within a different paradigm than one being discussed. It comes from analysing social interactions and motivations at a more abstract level, it is NOT referring to the actual (very personal) subjective experience of it. It's like looking at all conversations using Transactional Analysis (Parent-Child, Adult-Adult, Adult-Child) and how this insight can, as a general strategy for understanding what is going on, inform a participant in a conversation how to make that conversation, vis-a-vis communication, more effective. The 'Power' aspect of rape comes from an understanding, or paradigm, that interprets the basic motivation of the aggressor as 'desiring to have power over someone else' rather than just 'the desire to have sex'. The rationale? fulfilling a sexual need is relatively easy and in and of itself does not fully account for the aggressive and humiliating nature of rape. A rapist must be motivated by more than just 'the desire for sex' they are motivated by other considerations - such as using aggression and violence to satisfy their want and to humiliate the victim as well as forcing the victim to be subject to their will: once you break this down (deconstruct it) it can be reduced to a base motivation: the desire to have and exercise power over another. Think of it this way, a rapist wants to have sex with a specific person without requiring their consent because that's what the rapist wants, if it was 'just sex' why not try seduction?, rather the rapist wishes to exert their will/dominance at the expense of the victims right to choose/consent: the rapist wishes to exercise power over the victim to take what they want, when they want it and in spite of the victim. It's less an act of sex and more an act of domination . . . 'Winning' an argument is a power game, exercising your right as consumer to not buy something is a power game, nearly every human interaction can be seen as power game. Sometimes it's cooperative, people of like minds come together to reinforce their shared beliefs, sometimes it's oppositional, people come together to oppose each others beliefs and convince the other they are 'right'. Dialectical change theory basically assumes this (thesis vs antithesis becomes a synthesis the synthesis becomes the new thesis to be opposed by a new antithesis an so on), eg: Karl Marx took this observation and applied to the prevalent class system of the day and wrote his treatises on class conflict and the ownership resources. But it can be seen in many aspects of modern life, especially in academia and politics. Aaron
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nafzib
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Post by nafzib on Sept 9, 2015 15:20:05 GMT -8
I stopped reading on the second page of responses, and am going to stay on topic and answer OP's question.
I'm a bisexual white male.
I could give a shit how any gaming book I buy is presented as long as the text itself isn't riddled with typos or poorly written in a grammatical sense. Also, if it costs more than ten bucks, I have to *really* want it to actually drop any money on it.
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HyveMynd
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Post by HyveMynd on Sept 9, 2015 15:42:42 GMT -8
Yeesh. Unless you're talking about PDFs of Savage Worlds Explorer's Edition, what RPG book are you getting for less than $10?
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nafzib
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Post by nafzib on Sept 9, 2015 15:54:50 GMT -8
Yeesh. Unless you're talking about PDFs of Savage Worlds Explorer's Edition, what RPG book are you getting for less than $10? Not many. Lol. Mostly drive thru RPG sales. If I have extra money to burn I'll go up to around 20-30 bucks for an interesting looking book, but that's usually only for physical copies.
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Post by Kainguru on Sept 14, 2015 6:46:37 GMT -8
I stopped reading on the second page of responses, and am going to stay on topic and answer OP's question. I'm a bisexual white male. I could give a shit how any gaming book I buy is presented as long as the text itself isn't riddled with typos or poorly written in a grammatical sense. Also, if it costs more than ten bucks, I have to *really* want it to actually drop any money on it. Typo? couldn't? if so . . . then yeah that about sums it up. Totally agree that the price point is the 'seller' excepting those games I really want (Lords alone knows I've dropped a bomb on FFG's doorstep lately) Aaron
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D.T. Pints
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Post by D.T. Pints on Sept 14, 2015 6:48:32 GMT -8
You took a shit on FFG porch! That's amazing! Did you light it on fire first ?
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Post by Kainguru on Sept 14, 2015 7:07:39 GMT -8
You took a shit on FFG porch! That's amazing! Did you light it on fire first ? You bet Aaron
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Post by ericfromnj on Sept 24, 2015 16:34:33 GMT -8
How does the presentation of a game (be it layout, art, fiction, rules explanation, etc.) effect your interest in that game? What can publishers do or not do to diversify appeal in RPG products? What are some examples of products that appeal to you and why do they? 1. If it is clean and where the narrative conveys what the RPG is trying to convey in terms of mood and setting. Look up the D6 Star Wars books. (Fragments of the Rim is a good example.) You don't know the color or orientation of these people, but you know why they fight against oppression/ I can impose whatever else I want on these characters (e.g. I still see Corwin Shelvey from Fragments of the Rim as a gay man) because the narrative deals with what the game is about. 2. I would say write the narrative and let us fill in the blanks how we like. 3. See above.
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D.T. Pints
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Post by D.T. Pints on Sept 25, 2015 6:36:48 GMT -8
"Fragments of the Rim"...Heh..heh...(I'm apparently still 10 years old).
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