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Post by ayslyn on May 26, 2016 15:50:34 GMT -8
(like asking a bunch of mates after a few bongs and beers: 'What would you do to survive the Zombie Apocalypse?') I don't know what you're talking about. I certainly don't have any such plans, and they certainly wouldn't include living within three minutes drive of two rifle selling sports stores, or utilizing my knife and sword collections.... Honestly....
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Post by ilina on May 26, 2016 17:06:42 GMT -8
i guess having bad Experiences of OSR in Elementary School doesn't truly make OSR Bad. but i learned a lot of bad habits from it that still Phase me to this day. my issue with 1e and 2e, is the same issue with many other RPGs i played. Control Freak GMs who wanted to keep the players, weak, poor, fragile and starving.
but Gaming Jesus wasn't just one person, but a ton of people complaining about the lack of security against GM Dickery. years of Results still ongoing. not that there aren't Nice OSR Roleplayers out there. but some OSR practices i try to be wary of, because those practices represent something painful for me. i still have issues trusting grognards. might have been because my first negative experiences of OSR were from the ages of 6-9 years. where children are more sensitive to things.
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Post by ayslyn on May 26, 2016 17:33:09 GMT -8
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Metaphor is just completely lost on you, isn't it....
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Post by ilina on May 26, 2016 18:28:08 GMT -8
... Metaphor is just completely lost on you, isn't it.... i actually have intense difficulty understanding metaphors. but i'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. despite what my I.Q. Tests would hint. i don't even know how i even got a Genius level result when so many things are beyond me.
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Post by Kainguru on May 26, 2016 23:18:39 GMT -8
Trigger Warning - Metaphor Approaching Right, so, you actually believe that even the metaphor of Gaming Jesus was 'a thing'? That hoards of protesting people 'demanding gaming justice' bought forth the Age of DnD Enlightenment that was called the 'Word of The Prophet Monte in His 3rd Edition'? Not that 3rd Edition was a necessary marketing exercise instructed by the parent company, Hasbro, to kick start sales on it's acquisition of WoTC?. Holy Shit!!! DnD 3rd Ed was a Hasbro product? - yep, check the dates . . . contrary to popular belief WoTC was a Hasbro subsidiary by the time 3E hits the world. What IS true is that WoTc created something magnificent that achieved it's goal, reinvigorating a flagging hobby, in order to boost it's sales/brand worth - The OGL*. When you objectively look at 3E and the 2E products preceding it you can see a linear transition over time. Most of the 'revolutionary' mechanics of 3E existed as 2E options and in 2E splat books long before 3E: even AoO, Ascending AC, Point Buy etc etc. But not all of these options carried over - like the advantages/flaws mechanic in the 2E Players Options. Yes, I speak DnD heresy, printed in the Apocrypha of 2E - before the coming of The Prophet Monte and during the Dark Age of OSR - was an advantages/flaws mechanic . . . developed because there was a demand for it. Don't forget that this was long before the Internet was a loud and accessible forum - BBS's and AOL were about it and, at the time, TSR/WoTC(pre-Hasbro) were not exactly forerunners in it's use. That being said the voice of demand from we Dark Age OSR Heretics must have been loud, and persistent, indeed . . . What is true is that in TSR's dying years they treated gamers with contempt, as a matter of corporate policy, which is one of the many factors that led to it's catastrophic downfall. But even then the designers were still gamers, gamers in touch with gamers and the changing zeitgeist * and like Lucifer Morningstar did the OGL rebel against The Father and wage war at the Gates of WoTC nearly tearing asunder The Kingdom of The Prophet by giving some of The Prophet's power and authority to the masses below. Thus, like Prometheus and his gift of fire, was the OGL finally bound and punished at the behest of the All Father Hasbro . . . but too late for the people had tasted of the fruit of ownership of The Hobby. Pandora's Box was open and could never be fully shut againAaron
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Post by ayslyn on May 27, 2016 3:35:03 GMT -8
Well, to be fair, the OGL was a hot mess too. It caused almost as many problems as it solved. After all, the OGL was the seed that allowed some johnny-come-lately David to topple WotC's Goliath. Without the excessive permissiveness that pervaded the OGL, Pathfinder would never have been a thing.
And that's not even counting all the drek that came out of the lack of oversight the OGL had... Sure there were gems. True20, Blue Rose, M&M, Freeport...just to stick with one publisher. But there was a HELL of a lot of dross to go with it.
EDIT: Which I am realizing as I read the end of your post, again, was sort of your point... ^.^
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Post by The Northman on May 27, 2016 15:49:01 GMT -8
... Metaphor is just completely lost on you, isn't it.... i actually have intense difficulty understanding metaphors. but i'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. despite what my I.Q. Tests would hint. i don't even know how i even got a Genius level result when so many things are beyond me. Was that snark or are you telling us you're on the spectrum? The medium genuinely makes it difficult to tell, and there's a wide range of reactions I could be having that are all on hold.
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Post by ilina on May 27, 2016 17:14:39 GMT -8
i actually have intense difficulty understanding metaphors. but i'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. despite what my I.Q. Tests would hint. i don't even know how i even got a Genius level result when so many things are beyond me. Was that snark or are you telling us you're on the spectrum? The medium genuinely makes it difficult to tell, and there's a wide range of reactions I could be having that are all on hold. yes, i am on the Autism Spectrum. Aspbergers to be accurate. 183 IQ, but absolutely no grasp of common sense and no ability to understand metaphors. but most of my brilliance is wasted due to my lack of wisdom and understanding. i tend to annoy people and explain the wrong approach without realizing what i am doing. high intelligence, shitty wisdom and charisma.
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Post by ilina on May 27, 2016 17:25:13 GMT -8
i would be that Wizard that wastes their skillpoints on skills that have no practical use in a life or death scenario, but really help on a "Rainy Day". you never know when getting Top 8 in a 128 person super smash brothers melee tournament on a Gamecube or getting a Top 4 Position out of 256 in Competitive Pokemon Generation 2 for the Gameboy Color Can Save your life. or when Clearing Sonic 2 in under 20 minutes on a Sega Genesis while getting every hidden item and chaos emerald could earn you brownie points. you also never know when knowing about the strengths and weaknesses of a large variety of classic Touhou or Kantai Collection Characters could help when Invading a Foreign Planet. you also never know when a massive memory of the pokemon bestiary can help you survive a foreign planet either.
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Post by The Northman on May 27, 2016 19:58:08 GMT -8
Was that snark or are you telling us you're on the spectrum? The medium genuinely makes it difficult to tell, and there's a wide range of reactions I could be having that are all on hold. yes, i am on the Autism Spectrum. Aspbergers to be accurate. 183 IQ, but absolutely no grasp of common sense and no ability to understand metaphors. but most of my brilliance is wasted due to my lack of wisdom and understanding. i tend to annoy people and explain the wrong approach without realizing what i am doing. high intelligence, shitty wisdom and charisma. Well...I'm sorry you have to deal with that, but this entire conversation makes a lot more sense now.
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Post by ilina on May 27, 2016 20:45:45 GMT -8
yes, i am on the Autism Spectrum. Aspbergers to be accurate. 183 IQ, but absolutely no grasp of common sense and no ability to understand metaphors. but most of my brilliance is wasted due to my lack of wisdom and understanding. i tend to annoy people and explain the wrong approach without realizing what i am doing. high intelligence, shitty wisdom and charisma. Well...I'm sorry you have to deal with that, but this entire conversation makes a lot more sense now. thankies
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Post by Kainguru on May 28, 2016 3:22:17 GMT -8
Was that snark or are you telling us you're on the spectrum? The medium genuinely makes it difficult to tell, and there's a wide range of reactions I could be having that are all on hold. yes, i am on the Autism Spectrum. Aspbergers to be accurate. 183 IQ, but absolutely no grasp of common sense and no ability to understand metaphors. but most of my brilliance is wasted due to my lack of wisdom and understanding. i tend to annoy people and explain the wrong approach without realizing what i am doing. high intelligence, shitty wisdom and charisma. Point 1) Which measure of IQ? because it depends on the test. Personally I find references to IQ and tests highly amusing as I am familiar with at least 3 tests: one caps and 150, one at 180 and another at 200. So cannot compare IQ's unless you know the test eg: compare a 145 to a 162, 162 is bigger yeah? but what if I then told you the 145 came from a test with a cap of 150 and the 162 from a test with a cap of 200 - now which ones the genius? Point 2) Again IQ (this one includes emotional IQ, artistic IQ, creative IQ, musical IQ, physical/reaction time IQ etc etc) - lets just say I'm both smart and educated enough to know, authoritatively, that it's a meaningless measure. By authoritatively I reference, specifically, having privileged access the huge body of independent peer-reviewed evidence that questions or supports the validity of the IQ test: for every article that supports the IQ test there are equally valid critiques that challenge those same assertions. A matter of professional opinion the issue remains undecided, it's a topic of ongoing debate with no clear winners. The same is true of many psychometrics - like the MMPI, Big 3 and Big 5 personality tests and the Measure of Involuntary Variable Changes in Skin Conductance Test (Polygraph). Don't start me on the polygraph, like the IQ test, it's a triumph of marketing over substance where the populist 'evidence' is promoted by people cherry picking data to promote a product in which they either have a financial investment in or have gambled their professional reputation on. Point 3) Where on the ASD spectrum, as Aspergers is no longer a unique identifier? Now I'm assuming your diagnosis was classified under the DSM V as you reference the ASD. Note I say classified as the DSM V isn't a diagnostic tool despite it's name - it's a classification tool so that when professionals are discussing diagnoses they are discussing the same thing. The usual order of events should be Professional Assessment, then Diagnosis, then reference to the DSM for Classification and the generation/consideration of possible Provisional [alternative] Diagnoses. Point 4) Straw-Man-Argument: WTF has this to do with being wrong or being an opinionated anti-OSR arsehole? Genius or Autistic that does not entitle you to historical revisionism to suit your personal narrative. Nor does it entitle you to not be disagreed with or confronted. You choose to enter into a discourse to discuss the topic of that discourse and if you have trouble with certain concepts, fine, allowances can be made but they should not be removed or changed to fit your preferred schema - because that destroys the integrity of discourse and we enter a world where we exchange trite meaningless nothings that merely reinforces what we wish to believe. Any one of 'us', sitting behind our keyboards, can (and do) have multiple personal problems and/or live with certain conditions which can impact on our understanding of the world . . . but they're still not a valid arguments as counterpoints . . . 'did I mention my kitten died yesterday? so of course as I said earlier in 1983 Gary Gygax was a cross dressing masochistic' Aaron
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Post by ilina on May 28, 2016 23:36:08 GMT -8
i'm actually high enough functioning that i can do some mundane tasks if the steps are conditioned by repetition and step by step explanation, but low enough that i can't really contribute as a functioning member of society. and well, the IQ test i took was one i took in the mid to late 1990's with my elementary school guidance counselor, so i don't know or remember much about the test. just that it wasn't very different from an Standardized Achievement Test. plus my education sucks. i was in a special education class and had to have accommodations to compensate for extreme disadvantages. the test had a cap of 200.
i can repeat things i hear, see or experience very well if they are recent or significant, and remember strong emotional influences. but remembering something requires me to review it repetitively.
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Post by Kainguru on May 29, 2016 3:54:48 GMT -8
Well an IQ test taken as a teenager is rarely predictive of adult IQ. IQ is fluid and dynamic and changes over time, Einstein wasn't born with a high IQ, it developed over time. Note that Einstein never took an IQ test so figures that estimate his IQ have been pulled from thin air. The original gold standard for measuring IQ was formulaic: (Mental Age/Chronological Age) x 100 = IQ. IQ tests were derivatives of this original formula which, when you look at it, shows how IQ changes over time given that a fast developing childhood prodigy will slowly drift back towards the center of the measure as his/her mental and chronological ages begin to approach a more relational concordance. More contemporary IQ tests measure Deviation IQ as a scoring related to the number of standard deviations one is from the mean of a normal distribution. Interestingly, and as a side note, it is considered bad manners to use the terms of classification relating to the lower percentile these days (moron, idiot, retard etc) yet we, as a society, maintain the use of those descriptors relating to 'genius' and 'gifted'. But, ignoring IQ, lets point firmly at the elephant in the room . . . because other people have asked but their questions have either been ignored of deftly side-stepped: WHO OR WHAT IS THE REAL ILINA? So far, briefly perusing the narrative of your avatar, we have: 1) A person who has some sort of social avoidance/anxiety disorder thus they wish to game online: but without camera or voice 2) A person whose relationship status morphs from married, to engaged to de-facto and back again 3) A person who has demonstrated an almost unhealthy preoccupation with the sexually explicit imagery found in Japanese culture, vis-a-vis anime et al, that borders on exploitative, underaged and pornographic. Note you have been challenged on this before which has resulted in you either totally ignoring the challenge or responding such that we are enlightened to . . . 4) . . . A person with body dysmorphia and, from your description, a correlated eating disorder. Quite how this justified your use of sexualised children as a consistent imagery in the majority of your posts remains, to me at least, elusive. TBH it sounded more like an excuse used to deflect away from the fact that you had been challenged for 'crossing the line of morally acceptable behaviour' - which is quite an achievement given the light touch moderation of this forum 5) You now claim to be on the autisic spectrum and severely disadvantaged when it comes to understanding or engaging socially with others. Yet, again after a quick perusal of your post history, you consistently call out other people in your face-to-face gaming circle as socially maladjusted with yourself as the normative victim ie: the socially savvy one in a group of social misfits. BUT, as demonstrated by your latest confession, you have insight your own social maladaptation/lack of development and you have never thought to consider (or mention) the fact that your negative observations of your fellows has been lensed through the myopia of your own social condition 6) Considering your constant use of sexualised imagery and your preoccupation with with Lolita's and anime (et al) lets deconstruct your avatar another step further: It certainly fits your narrative in that you are, by your own words: a slim, childlike, sexually provocative woman with a genius IQ who presents as herself as both strong willed but timid, independent but (by your latest confession) barely functional without the intercession of others, socially limited/maladjusted but aware of the minutia that corresponds to complicit sexual manipulation (as evidenced by several of your character posts). A rare sylph like creature of contradictions (contradictions that appear to attempt to encompass a broad spectrum of imagined male desires and engender paternalistic feelings of protection and lust) that can never be seen, heard or proved to exist. In summary: A profile that sounds like it belongs on the best of Tumblr. Maybe you are who you say you are, I don't know, in which case you need a lot of real world work to sort out the cognitive dissonance that is your chosen identity. More likely you exhibit signs of a dissociative disorder requiring that you constantly reinvent your chosen identity and/or that you live vicariously thru your avatar - again, that requires some real world work on your behalf. The harsh reality of the real world is that the real world doesn't give a fuck how unique or special or snowflakey one is: all the safe spaces in the world will never change what the world is and eventually you have to leave those safe spaces and engage with real world on it's own terms. Those terms are very simple - everyone has problems, life is unfair, we are all insignificant in the broader scheme of things and no one agrees on anything (I choose to engage with the world on the assumption that everyone is an arsehole [including me] unless proven otherwise, as that way I can never be disappointed only ever pleasantly surprised) There is another option in deconstructing you avatar - one that fredrix challenged you on several months ago: you either missed the subtext of his challenge or ignored it entirely limiting your response simply to the use, or misuse, of the term 'Loli'. fredrix's concerns were more than just the singular use of the term 'Loli' it was about the entire context and tone of the majority of your posts as being preoccupied with the sexualisation of children (albeit child-like adults: which is a bit like the local tobacconist selling bongs labelled 'not for the consumption of illegal substances') Aaron
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Post by ilina on May 29, 2016 14:29:30 GMT -8
in reality; i have a bunch of identities.
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