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Jul 8, 2017 12:50:37 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Jul 8, 2017 12:50:37 GMT -8
They do have a theme don't they.
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Jul 8, 2017 17:39:15 GMT -8
Post by akavidar on Jul 8, 2017 17:39:15 GMT -8
Sorry to disappoint but Lars Andersen has long ago been debunked as a total fraud and frankly kind of an ignorant idiot. Just check Google or Youtube for Lars Andersen Debunked or any similar key words cuz, yeaahhh... I got fooled too the first time I saw his stuff because I don't know dick about archery, once I saw videos and read articles from people who do, I honestly felt kinda stupid for not having seen through this guy's ridiculous claims on my own. Yeah. He's definitely a skilled trick-shooter, but his insistence that all others have been doing ild archery wrong and his way is the right way is off. But he does prove that an Archer can shoot 10 arrows in a very short period of time.
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Jul 8, 2017 17:49:49 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Jul 8, 2017 17:49:49 GMT -8
Yeah. He's definitely a skilled trick-shooter, but his insistence that all others have been doing ild archery wrong and his way is the right way is off. But he does prove that an Archer can shoot 10 arrows in a very short period of time. The problem is that those shots don't have much power to them since he couldn't do that with a very taut bow. It works well when just going for speed, but in a battle situation you also need a strong shot so that it can actually reach its target and penetrate whatever protection the target might be wearing.
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Jul 9, 2017 18:25:12 GMT -8
Post by akavidar on Jul 9, 2017 18:25:12 GMT -8
But he does prove that an Archer can shoot 10 arrows in a very short period of time. The problem is that those shots don't have much power to them since he couldn't do that with a very taut bow. It works well when just going for speed, but in a battle situation you also need a strong shot so that it can actually reach its target and penetrate whatever protection the target might be wearing. Not being an Archer, I will concede this point.
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Jul 9, 2017 19:54:00 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Jul 9, 2017 19:54:00 GMT -8
The problem is that those shots don't have much power to them since he couldn't do that with a very taut bow. It works well when just going for speed, but in a battle situation you also need a strong shot so that it can actually reach its target and penetrate whatever protection the target might be wearing. Not being an Archer, I will concede this point. For the record, since I don't want to misrepresent myself (even in a favorable way), I'm not an archer either. I was just repeating what others who actually know about archery have said about his tricks and his claims.
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d47
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Jul 10, 2017 1:27:49 GMT -8
Post by d47 on Jul 10, 2017 1:27:49 GMT -8
Here's my thinking, as I was the archer in question. Defense dice don't just represent blocking/parrying or a shield/weapon expertise, as there are other ways for a person to defend themselves or 'be on the defensive'. In the initial round, Adeste had combatants around her in addition to one of her allies. I took the defensive stance that first round due to that melee sitch. Literally anyone can be on the defensive when there are dangerous things going on around them, whatever that color on that is - being hyper-vigilant, ready to dodge, ready to take cover behind an ally, parry with the bow if required, whatever. So yeah, I think it makes total sense that anyone is able to reserve defensive hit dice, unless they're unconscious. And since it is likely effecting your attack to fight/attack defensively (at least that's the color I think it represents), it makes total sense to me that it comes out of that pool. I didn't do it on the following rounds, as character-wise, she would have felt more out of immediate danger/threat. That's my 2 asses worth. I didn't really have a problem in that case, but I was imagining potentially using ALL your archery dice for defense against melee attacks. Referring this time to the current rules, it seems that players can reserve more than one pair of dice for defense. This seems fine in melee vs melee and ranged vs ranged combat. It doesn't make sense to me, though in many ranged vs melee situations. I think there should be limits in such situations to reflect that the weapon skill is not suitable for that type of defense. Basically, though, I think reserving dice is a nice and simple way to add defensive options to combat without needing to have separate defense skills.
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d47
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Jul 10, 2017 1:43:38 GMT -8
Post by d47 on Jul 10, 2017 1:43:38 GMT -8
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Jul 11, 2017 9:36:24 GMT -8
Post by weaselcreature on Jul 11, 2017 9:36:24 GMT -8
Not being an Archer, I will concede this point. For the record, since I don't want to misrepresent myself (even in a favorable way), I'm not an archer either. I was just repeating what others who actually know about archery have said about his tricks and his claims. But you are correct. It's been awhile since I've seen his videos, and I don't recall that they mentioned the strength of his bow, but it looked to me like it's possibly a 30-35# draw weight, which is light. It will lack some of the range and punching power of a heavier bow. English Longbowmen were crazy with draw weights of 140# +, but they practiced 7 days a week for years and years.
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Jul 11, 2017 10:10:36 GMT -8
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Post by uncommonman on Jul 11, 2017 10:10:36 GMT -8
For the record, since I don't want to misrepresent myself (even in a favorable way), I'm not an archer either. I was just repeating what others who actually know about archery have said about his tricks and his claims. But you are correct. It's been awhile since I've seen his videos, and I don't recall that they mentioned the strength of his bow, but it looked to me like it's possibly a 30-35# draw weight, which is light. It will lack some of the range and punching power of a heavier bow. English Longbowmen were crazy with draw weights of 140# +, but they practiced 7 days a week for years and years. That's something most rpg's get wrong. Female petite archer is one of my most hated tropes when it comes to fantasy. You could die getting shot by a light (30+ lbs) bow but a slim archer wouldn't have the power to penetrate any armour and couldn't shoot far. (some hyperbole but mostly true)
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Jul 11, 2017 12:07:25 GMT -8
Post by weaselcreature on Jul 11, 2017 12:07:25 GMT -8
But you are correct. It's been awhile since I've seen his videos, and I don't recall that they mentioned the strength of his bow, but it looked to me like it's possibly a 30-35# draw weight, which is light. It will lack some of the range and punching power of a heavier bow. English Longbowmen were crazy with draw weights of 140# +, but they practiced 7 days a week for years and years. That's something most rpg's get wrong. Female petite archer is one of my most hated tropes when it comes to fantasy. You could die getting shot by a light (30+ lbs) bow but a slim archer wouldn't have the power to penetrate any armour and couldn't shoot far. (some hyperbole but mostly true) While the petite female archer is definitely an overused trope, just make sure you don't make the mistake and think a small female can't pull a decent hunting bow (~50#). You don't need to be buff to pull those bows, but you'll be lean muscle where it counts, and they can put a hurt on someone in armor (maybe not full plate, but...). But yeah, especially in movies seeing just how light the pull on the bows are (possibly as low as 10-15#'s from the look of string jiggling) always has me amused. I get it's for visual effect of quick draws, but...a pet peeve of mine. My newest fantasy character is an archer. A huge 6'4" gnoll with a 19 STR who would rather not get into melee.
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Jul 11, 2017 12:19:03 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Jul 11, 2017 12:19:03 GMT -8
My newest fantasy character is an archer. A huge 6'4" gnoll with a 19 STR who would rather not get into melee. That sounds badass.
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Jul 11, 2017 12:44:30 GMT -8
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Post by uncommonman on Jul 11, 2017 12:44:30 GMT -8
That's something most rpg's get wrong. Female petite archer is one of my most hated tropes when it comes to fantasy. You could die getting shot by a light (30+ lbs) bow but a slim archer wouldn't have the power to penetrate any armour and couldn't shoot far. (some hyperbole but mostly true) While the petite female archer is definitely an overused trope, just make sure you don't make the mistake and think a small female can't pull a decent hunting bow (~50#). You don't need to be buff to pull those bows, but you'll be lean muscle where it counts, and they can put a hurt on someone in armor (maybe not full plate, but...). But yeah, especially in movies seeing just how light the pull on the bows are (possibly as low as 10-15#'s from the look of string jiggling) always has me amused. I get it's for visual effect of quick draws, but...a pet peeve of mine. My newest fantasy character is an archer. A huge 6'4" gnoll with a 19 STR who would rather not get into melee. You absolutely don't need to be muscular or buff to shoot a bow but this is what I don't like: Edit: a gnoll with a 3 meter tall longbow at 200 lbs would be a nightmare :-)
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Jul 11, 2017 13:11:01 GMT -8
Post by weaselcreature on Jul 11, 2017 13:11:01 GMT -8
uncommonman; yeah, that wasn't necessarily directed at you, just at the topic. Pretty sure we're on the same page here.
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Jul 11, 2017 15:33:06 GMT -8
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Post by uncommonman on Jul 11, 2017 15:33:06 GMT -8
uncommonman; yeah, that wasn't necessarily directed at you, just at the topic. Pretty sure we're on the same page here. I'm sure too. I've been thinking about your gnoll... How powerful a bow do you think it could use and what damage? I mean the arrows and draw length would be longer (if gnolls have longer arms proportional to humans).
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Jul 11, 2017 21:30:58 GMT -8
Post by weaselcreature on Jul 11, 2017 21:30:58 GMT -8
uncommonman ; yeah, that wasn't necessarily directed at you, just at the topic. Pretty sure we're on the same page here. I'm sure too. I've been thinking about your gnoll... How powerful a bow do you think it could use and what damage? I mean the arrows and draw length would be longer (if gnolls have longer arms proportional to humans). Well, its Pathfinder, so mechanically speaking I want to get him a composite bow that allows the use of his STR bonus on arrow damage (+4 currently), but we just started the campaign at 1st level, so... He currently does more damage with a short sword than his bow due to his STR, but my next feat will be rapid fire so I can shoot twice per turn. I imagine he'd have around a 32-34" draw length and could handle a 100# bow with ease. He was inspired by this image; although with the ranger being my favorite class and gnoll being my favorite demihuman, it wasn't a stretch. Never played this combo before, though. benwootten.deviantart.com/art/Gnoll-Scout-481766616Sorry for hijacking your BBT thread, Stu Venable!
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