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Post by CreativeCowboy on Jan 14, 2013 5:28:29 GMT -8
I would appreciate if one of you knowledgeable folks in 3.5 could aid me with a simple answer/confirmation. My memory needs a refresher on spell saving throws.
Arcane spells from Sorcerer and Wizard both have a Saving Throw calculation for the Target. Wizard = 10+spell level+INT modifier and Sorcerer = 10+spell level+ CHA modifier.
Is there any such calculation for the other core spell users or does the target not get a Saving Throw against this magic: Cleric, Druid, Paladin, Ranger? (And, because I am lazy, what is the calculation if there is one?)
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Post by jazzisblues on Jan 14, 2013 6:32:08 GMT -8
It's essentially the same but modified by the class' primary stat
cleric/druid = WIS bard = CHA
Paladins and Rangers are actually divine casters so I think it's WIS but I won't swear to that without the books in front of me to check.
JiB
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Post by CreativeCowboy on Jan 14, 2013 7:51:09 GMT -8
That's what I thought. Thank you, JiB!
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Post by jazzisblues on Jan 14, 2013 8:16:07 GMT -8
That's what I thought. Thank you, JiB! You are most welcome. Sent from my MB860 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 10:29:29 GMT -8
They can also be modified by the Spell Focus feats. Also monster save DCs are: 10+ Hit Dice/2 + relevant stat bonus (like CON for poison).
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Post by CreativeCowboy on Jan 14, 2013 11:16:42 GMT -8
They can also be modified by the Spell Focus feats. Also monster save DCs are: 10+ Hit Dice/2 + relevant stat bonus (like CON for poison). Thank you, taronicos! That is good supplemental for my recall too!
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Post by diabolicwombat on Jan 22, 2013 15:58:34 GMT -8
Paladins use charisma instead of wisdom as their stat du jour.
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Post by CreativeCowboy on Jan 22, 2013 21:10:03 GMT -8
No. They jumbled around with the Paladin since 1e. JiB is correct. PHB Page 44 The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a paladin’s spell is 10 + the spell level + the paladin’s Wisdom modifier
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Post by The Northman on Feb 10, 2013 10:38:43 GMT -8
It can be confusing, since CHA is arguably a much more important stat than WIS for them. Especially since you're going to be doing a lot more buff-style spells than anything where a save is factored in.
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Post by evilgingerdm on Mar 7, 2013 13:48:38 GMT -8
No. They jumbled around with the Paladin since 1e. JiB is correct. PHB Page 44 The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a paladin’s spell is 10 + the spell level + the paladin’s Wisdom modifier Paladins in 3.5/ earlier used wisdom for spells, This changed to CHA in Pathfinder. :-)
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Post by jazzisblues on Mar 8, 2013 6:59:54 GMT -8
In Pathfinder it is in fact Charisma that governs a Paladin's spells (Pathfinder Core Rulebook p. 62). Shows how long it's been since I played a Paladin. It is also entirely possible that I have entirely too many game systems vying for my feeble brain space and so I get confoosed easily. JiB
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Post by uselesstriviaman on Mar 8, 2013 7:42:55 GMT -8
Huh. I just learned something. Thanks EGDM!
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Post by SirGuido on Mar 8, 2013 8:21:21 GMT -8
No. They jumbled around with the Paladin since 1e. JiB is correct. PHB Page 44 The Difficulty Class for a saving throw against a paladin’s spell is 10 + the spell level + the paladin’s Wisdom modifier Paladins in 3.5/ earlier used wisdom for spells, This changed to CHA in Pathfinder. :-) Josh?
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Post by evilgingerdm on Mar 11, 2013 12:22:00 GMT -8
Paladins in 3.5/ earlier used wisdom for spells, This changed to CHA in Pathfinder. :-) Josh? Lol, Nice guess :-). been lurking for a while, finally got an id..
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Post by SirGuido on Mar 11, 2013 14:20:34 GMT -8
Lol, Nice guess :-). been lurking for a while, finally got an id.. Good on ya!
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