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Post by maxinstuff on Jul 23, 2013 22:33:14 GMT -8
For the younger players it's definitely video games. I like to call it red circle syndrome, because in BG you kill everything with a red circle, no matter what. Not that BG is solely responsible for it of course. You forgot the yellow circle, where you can CHOOSE whether to kill them or not. AMAAAAAZING!!!!
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Post by Kainguru on Jul 24, 2013 0:53:04 GMT -8
HacknSlash vs Clever Resolution. It's NOT the game or the mechanics. It's the fact that you/we are all older now and more mature and thus able to see 'the third way' - bit like sex really, starts out simple and that's satisfying but after a few years out comes the gimp suit and the double ended dildoes. Like an old curmudgeon you/we sit back and look at these reckless young 'uns hacking and slashing and thinking 'there must be someone to blame - who'll think of the children' (*wail moan hands waving*). Forgetting that they were you/us at the same age and you/we are future them when they too can look back back with lumbago and complain about 'these darn kids ain't gotta clue, theys no good at the role plays I tell ya' HacknSlash is a phase we all went thru and we all gotta go thru . . . Aaron
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Post by maxinstuff on Jul 24, 2013 1:33:50 GMT -8
HacknSlash is a phase we all went thru and we all gotta go thru . . . Aaron Are you saying hack'n'slash is like masturbating??
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Post by Kainguru on Jul 24, 2013 3:01:03 GMT -8
HacknSlash is a phase we all went thru and we all gotta go thru . . . Aaron Are you saying hack'n'slash is like masturbating?? Yep, after awhile you've got to be more 'refined' to get the juices flowing . . . by 'refined' I mean more selective and experimental in the masturbatory materials used (come to think of it where is my copy of 'Fist Fucked Virgin Nuns IV - the second coming'?) Did someone mention a F.A.T.A.L Larp on this podcast or did I imagine it? - cause I have provisional 'Brown Eye Theatre' rules. They're very simple, you just need a pair of sharp metal calipers . . . no need to roll for anal circumference . . . Aaron
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Post by CreativeCowboy on Jul 24, 2013 3:59:17 GMT -8
Are you saying hack'n'slash is like masturbating?? Yep, after awhile you've got to be more 'refined' to get the juices flowing . . . So a clear battle session, like Helm's Deep for example, is right out then? How about bad guys who are just plain bad instead of misunderstood. I mean the mustache-twirling-maniacal-laughing-railroad-damsel-tying villain who tells everyone he just needs the understanding and nurturing love he did not get from his father while he flays you like Ramsey Snow to Theon Greyjoy cleansing bad. [ not the one I had in mind but ok exposition] Shall we all just role-play an epic meal together then? I happen to like My Dinner With Andre.
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Post by Kainguru on Jul 24, 2013 4:03:18 GMT -8
Yep, after awhile you've got to be more 'refined' to get the juices flowing . . . So a clear cut battle session, like Helm's Deep for example, is right out then? Shall we all just role-play a meal together then? I happen to like My Dinner With Andre. No more like you move on from Helm's Deep and start throwing diseased corpses over the walls to infect the besieged castle to win the day - ie: Flesh and Blood Aaron
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Post by CreativeCowboy on Jul 24, 2013 4:20:27 GMT -8
No more like you move on from Helm's Deep and start throwing diseased corpses over the walls to infect the besieged castle to win the day - ie: Flesh and Blood That all depends upon the enemy. Some people are just slow. Take it from me. I was still editing when you had finished posting. Slow. I probably would not be the guy quick enough to think of elaborate plans. INT 8. WIS. 11 Thankfully my players have a mix of bad guys ahead of them. They'd just wipe the floor with cookie cutters of me.
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Post by guitarspider on Jul 24, 2013 4:33:40 GMT -8
You forgot the yellow circle, where you can CHOOSE whether to kill them or not. AMAAAAAZING!!!! Totes amaze indeed, but I honestly can't think of a lot of instances where the yellow cirlce didn't lead to the same result... HacknSlash vs Clever Resolution. It's NOT the game or the mechanics. It's the fact that you/we are all older now and more mature and thus able to see 'the third way' - bit like sex really, starts out simple and that's satisfying but after a few years out comes the gimp suit and the double ended dildoes. HacknSlash is a phase we all went thru and we all gotta go thru . . . Aaron I don't think I'm old enough to have arrived at that sex-phase yet. But the rest is true, except that I would add that I grew up with BG, and while I love that game to bits, it did teach me that enemies were there to be killed, not to be talked to, even tough BG was fairly nuanced for its time. Icewind Dale was much worse in that regard and so were 95% of RPGs. The rise of MMOs is pretty much the worst possible event in that regard. Even now it's amazing if you can talk your way through a game without killing anything. So these games also educated us young players to see enemies in RPGs in certain ways: as obstacles to be cleared by hack'n'slash. Educated us in a way where talking wasn't even on the radar, and that's the thing: if there had been talking as an option, we might not have taken that route frequently, but we might have realized there are different ways of dealing with problems/enemies. In the end lots of people might have come to roleplaying with a very different mindset.
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Post by Kainguru on Jul 24, 2013 4:52:48 GMT -8
Well growing up in Australia the gimp suits etc come pretty early - harsh country mature quickly. The usual progression is : masturbation, soggy Sao biscuit, sheep/cows and/or kangaroos depending on geography, vanilla, in a rather uncomfortable place like the back of a VW Beetle, back to the beasties, car-keys in fish bowl, gimp suit then your 18th birthday should be just around the corner . . . Aaron
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Post by CreativeCowboy on Jul 24, 2013 6:40:47 GMT -8
So these games also educated us young players to see enemies in RPGs in certain ways: as obstacles to be cleared by hack'n'slash. Educated us in a way where talking wasn't even on the radar, and that's the thing: if there had been talking as an option, we might not have taken that route frequently, but we might have realized there are different ways of dealing with problems/enemies. Welcome to the experience that is customer service in Poland. Being so close, you already know to come to Poland because your car is already here - so you may also know the tales of high adventure that is customer service.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 6:54:08 GMT -8
Well growing up in Australia the gimp suits etc come pretty early - harsh country mature quickly. The usual progression is : masturbation, soggy Sao biscuit, sheep/cows and/or kangaroos depending on geography, vanilla, in a rather uncomfortable place like the back of a VW Beetle, back to the beasties, car-keys in fish bowl, gimp suit then your 18th birthday should be just around the corner . . . Aaron In my country we have a saying for people like you. "Die ergste afwykend is die een wat die sokkie dra." Just know that when you google image search kangaroos, crocodile dundee, and gimp suits you get this: Is this you ? Is this what Stu means when he says Drama, Tension, Conflict ? If this offends anyone go find another forum. Mr. Fray has been far too quiet lately and it was his posts that encouraged me to join this community in the first place. I would not want to be considered an individual who strays from the topic like many other individuals on this forum. Our FATAL LARP went very well, thank you for inquiring. This Jackercon event sounds like a perfect place to attempt my country's first explorations into cyber LARPing. There will be images and links to help assist with this process soon. I must consult certain legalities in the United States. Again words fail me in english to say what I would like to close this message. We say it best in my language. Mag jou omtrek wees al hoe groter. Saque P. Out!
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Post by Kainguru on Jul 24, 2013 7:47:01 GMT -8
Well growing up in Australia the gimp suits etc come pretty early - harsh country mature quickly. The usual progression is : masturbation, soggy Sao biscuit, sheep/cows and/or kangaroos depending on geography, vanilla, in a rather uncomfortable place like the back of a VW Beetle, back to the beasties, car-keys in fish bowl, gimp suit then your 18th birthday should be just around the corner . . . Aaron In my country we have a saying for people like you. "Die ergste afwykend is die een wat die sokkie dra." Just know that when you google image search kangaroos, crocodile dundee, and gimp suits you get this: Is this you ? Is this what Stu means when he says Drama, Tension, Conflict ? If this offends anyone go find another forum. Mr. Fray has been far too quiet lately and it was his posts that encouraged me to join this community in the first place. I would not want to be considered an individual who strays from the topic like many other individuals on this forum. Our FATAL LARP went very well, thank you for inquiring. This Jackercon event sounds like a perfect place to attempt my country's first explorations into cyber LARPing. There will be images and links to help assist with this process soon. I must consult certain legalities in the United States. Again words fail me in english to say what I would like to close this message. We say it best in my language. Mag jou omtrek wees al hoe groter. Saque P. Out! Aaron
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Post by Stu Venable on Jul 24, 2013 7:52:03 GMT -8
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you're not in South Africa, and that we haven't cracked one of the last two unconquered continents.
I do admire the lackadaisical way in which you chose the first language that comes up in Google language tools, however.
It is interesting to know that "the biggest perv is the one with the sock" is not just a Southern California saying.
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Post by gina on Jul 24, 2013 10:02:42 GMT -8
Kainguru Did you just Springsteen-up my Clash? Clash in my Ramones is a'ight, but I dunno... I once went to a small club where Springsteen played unannounced. There was much plotzing. I was a little sad. (Please don't kick me off the forum now.)
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Post by maxinstuff on Jul 24, 2013 13:27:59 GMT -8
The usual progression is : masturbation, soggy Sao biscuit, sheep/cows and/or kangaroos depending on geography, vanilla, in a rather uncomfortable place like the back of a VW Beetle, back to the beasties, car-keys in fish bowl, gimp suit then your 18th birthday should be just around the corner . . . Sorry - but Soggy Sao is a private school game. You have to sub that out for shitshick depending on socio-economic background.
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