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Post by Kainguru on Nov 14, 2013 4:38:32 GMT -8
We need to consolidate information on games and players in slots. Sometimes it was difficult sorting the wheat from the chaff with multiple posts and threads. Jackers from Europe (me included) really need to get our shit together and fill those empty slots left vacant by the PST Jackers in sleepy bobo land. Online con games need to be simple and pretty direct - only rarely can one get away with multiple twists and reveals in 4 hours and still keep it (slow) burning for a big finish. Pregen character backstory development is a great idea in theory but limited in practice as everyone is usually grappling with the technology inherent with online play as it is. Google are cunts - changing the interface at the last minute to fix what was broken by breaking things that used to work The YouTube addin is the Windows vista of hangouts - it's not really polished enough to release yet. Next time I'll take a leaf from JiB's book and cam to my desktop as NEITHER YOUTUBE, GOOGLE DRIVE OR ROLL20 appear in the on air feed. It doesn't do online games justice if you can't share with the audience what you're seeing - like the Roobinator in DTPints Paranoia game. Just my initial thoughts Aaron
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Post by SirGuido on Nov 14, 2013 5:21:37 GMT -8
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Post by druggeddwarf on Nov 14, 2013 6:00:40 GMT -8
Jackers from Europe (me included) really need to get our shit together and fill those empty slots left vacant by the PST Jackers in sleepy bobo land. As the Other DM on the euro side: I have to agree. We did need more players at that timeframe. What I learnt, is that I cannot do a whole day of RP both running and GMing without shaving years off my life.
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Post by D.T. Pints on Nov 14, 2013 8:35:42 GMT -8
We need to consolidate information on games and players in slots. Sometimes it was difficult sorting the wheat from the chaff with multiple posts and threads. Aaron I have a bunch of thoughts on all of this but as my wife's steampunk nutcracker (it's a theatrical production not a mechanical device for use in the home with safe words! "Jefferson Starship!" becomes frenetically busy with me organizing lights and sound I will just chime in piece meal for now. Yeah discussion on games and scheduling games would be great to keep paired. But when you have multiple games scheduled on each slot how best to do that? I definitely like having everything be handled on the forums. It definitely leads itself more to a con being run/played/organized by fans of the show. And like I said before what better way to discuss RPGs than have direct examples of players and GMs to draw from ? I tried to put a link in each schedule leading to the thread discussion for individual games. Then the schedule thread could hopefully be focused on people signing up dropping out and signing back up again...Did this work ? I know that a few Jackers just couldn't make the time slots (they were created with a Pasadena Mean Time focus). Perhaps if people want to run a non slot game they can just put it up in whatever time works best for them ? I'll stop for now as I know maxinstuff quits reading after the fifth line. Cheers, Curtis.
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Post by Kainguru on Nov 14, 2013 8:46:15 GMT -8
We need to consolidate information on games and players in slots. Sometimes it was difficult sorting the wheat from the chaff with multiple posts and threads. Aaron I'll stop for now as I know maxinstuff quits reading after the fifth line. Cheers, Curtis. That's only cause he's at the vinegar strokes by then Aaron
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Post by maxinstuff on Nov 14, 2013 12:41:11 GMT -8
How many people use google calendar?
What if we moved all the scheduling into a shared gcalendar?
> When you add things to your own calendar the time is converted for you > The calendar view would allow easy review of the entire weekend > People like me can make use of text and email reminders that are built in.
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Post by Kainguru on Nov 14, 2013 13:18:46 GMT -8
How many people use google calendar? What if we moved all the scheduling into a shared gcalendar? > When you add things to your own calendar the time is converted for you > The calendar view would allow easy review of the entire weekend > People like me can make use of text and email reminders that are built in. Ummmm. am I just unobservant but there's a calender app built into the forum ^ Right between Search and Members and I'm not sure if I ever noticed it before . . . ? Aaron
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Post by Forresst on Nov 14, 2013 13:35:54 GMT -8
I think this really needs a dedicated scheduling mechanism. I found the forums pretty unhelpful and man, I'd hate to have to be you D.T. Pints trying to make sure every slot got updated every time someone signed up for something. Manual input is for the birds, guys. We're a smart crew. We can figure out something useful.
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Post by Houndin on Nov 14, 2013 16:29:22 GMT -8
I think this really needs a dedicated scheduling mechanism. I found the forums pretty unhelpful and man, I'd hate to have to be you D.T. Pints trying to make sure every slot got updated every time someone signed up for something. Manual input is for the birds, guys. We're a smart crew. We can figure out something useful. Ditto. I ended up scheduling my regular group overlapping one of the timeslots because I really couldn't make heads or tails of the schedule. Calendar app would be awesome. Stu Venable Hopefully has a way to publish it via feed so we can all overlap it with our iCal/Gcal/Oulook or whatever.
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Post by D.T. Pints on Nov 14, 2013 22:16:31 GMT -8
I think this really needs a dedicated scheduling mechanism. I found the forums pretty unhelpful and man, I'd hate to have to be you D.T. Pints trying to make sure every slot got updated every time someone signed up for something. Manual input is for the birds, guysWe're a smart crew. We can figure out something useful. Agreed! I like the idea of google calendar since all games will be played via G+. And also I will not be involved with the any personal schedule changes. SO! That brings me to the inevitable question.... When should Jackercon III "The Return of the Douche!" Occur ? I have heard a few folks request that we just try a weekend long online con just twice a year others say 3-4... Honestly the effort involved in putting one of these things together is so minimal, I'm fine with every 4 months. But what say you all? Thanks for the input.
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Post by Kainguru on Nov 15, 2013 2:45:16 GMT -8
Given its online and 'free' I say it should be a seasonal affair ie: 4 times a year. There are enough games and players to go around and with a more regular event the pressure to both run and play a game would be reduced. Thus would enable, I believe, more participation across both roles and increase the opportunity to try new games while reducing competition/conflict over prime time slots. Besides a more regular event is more conducive to 'day passes' for those of us with RL conflicts that could limit dedicating an entire weekend. Aaron
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Post by guitarspider on Nov 15, 2013 7:54:09 GMT -8
Going by my experience with similar events, I'd not make the event more frequent. Eventually people will just feel like there's another one in just a few weeks, so "I'll go next time, missing this one isn't a big deal". Jackercon seems to be struggling a tiny bit player-side anyway, so that would be counterproductive. Twice a year is just good enough: the next one is not ages away, but it's not overkill either.
Plus, there's always the "regular" online games going on if someone really wants a fix.
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Post by D.T. Pints on Nov 15, 2013 8:44:21 GMT -8
Given its online and 'free' I say it should be a seasonal affair ie: 4 times a year. There are enough games and players to go around and with a more regular event the pressure to both run and play a game would be reduced. Thus would enable, I believe, more participation across both roles and increase the opportunity to try new games while reducing competition/conflict over prime time slots. Besides a more regular event is more conducive to 'day passes' for those of us with RL conflicts that could limit dedicating an entire weekend. Aaron I think you just outed yourself as a Druid...SEASONAL. The Spanish Inquisition is in route please standby... Not to be the great compromiser....but I think I will take your suggestion and guitar spiders mash them up try for three times a year. Since this reflects Alaskan weather where winter turns to spring blasts right by summer and turns into fall and quickly back to winter. But agreed if player turnout stays feeble...maybe twice a year is better.
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Post by Houndin on Nov 15, 2013 8:58:56 GMT -8
I think you just outed yourself as a Druid...SEASONAL. The Spanish Inquisition is in route please standby... Not to be the great compromiser....but I think I will take your suggestion and guitar spiders mash them up try for three times a year. Since this reflects Alaskan weather where winter turns to spring blasts right by summer and turns into fall and quickly back to winter. But agreed if player turnout stays feeble...maybe twice a year is better. Speaking of feeble player turn out... I think our problem is our overabundance of GMs. At Jackercon The First, I had limited time and chose to spend it running a game instead of playing in one. At Part Deux, I was completely confused by the schedules and how many games there were, and who was running what and who had signed up for what and .... well just confused. I think with a proper calendar (gcal is my preference) it will be easy to see what's happening when in my own time zone, and hopefully give me more incentive to take my turn in front of the screen instead of behind.
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Post by Kainguru on Nov 15, 2013 10:00:38 GMT -8
Given its online and 'free' I say it should be a seasonal affair ie: 4 times a year. There are enough games and players to go around and with a more regular event the pressure to both run and play a game would be reduced. Thus would enable, I believe, more participation across both roles and increase the opportunity to try new games while reducing competition/conflict over prime time slots. Besides a more regular event is more conducive to 'day passes' for those of us with RL conflicts that could limit dedicating an entire weekend. Aaron I think you just outed yourself as a Druid...SEASONAL. The Spanish Inquisition is in route please standby... Not to be the great compromiser....but I think I will take your suggestion and guitar spiders mash them up try for three times a year. Since this reflects Alaskan weather where winter turns to spring blasts right by summer and turns into fall and quickly back to winter. But agreed if player turnout stays feeble...maybe twice a year is better. You've read my other thread D.T. Pints, you know how MY Druids rock - which means a Wickerman for Jackercon . . . COOL burn baby burn time to start grooming the sacrifices (now where's my shitlist?) Aaron Besides if you insist on invoking the gods of a nature I may just unleash . . .
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