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Post by Luckstrider on Nov 20, 2013 7:52:36 GMT -8
What computer/console RPG games do you suggest? Which games have held your affections for the longest time?
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Post by nanoboy on Nov 20, 2013 10:26:50 GMT -8
Oddly enough, the best computer RPG I've ever played is a also the best strategy game I've ever played: Crusader Kings II. It's mostly a feudalism simulator, and it's very much a sandbox game in that you set your own goals. Very good role-playing game elements come into the game, too. You character has a lot of personal traits that you develop, and those traits interact with all of the other non-player characters, since the game is about inter-personal politics: you play the count/duke/king/emperor/merchant prince, not the body politic.
What is truly amazing is that in order to play the game well, you have to think like a feudal lord. The scores in the game are based on the accumulation of prestige and piety, so your choices should reflect your desire to get more of those. Second, when your character dies, you take on the role of the heir, so you need to do several things: put your heir in a good place, make sure you have the right heir, make sure your heir is of your dynasty (or game over), etc. Remarkably, the game encourages nepotism, so you might be screwing yourself by giving the best guy a title.
I know it sounds like a stretch, but the game is very much a sandbox role-playing strategy game, and it's awesome.
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Post by rickno7 on Nov 20, 2013 10:49:54 GMT -8
Are we talking the usual western created Baldur's Gate stuff?
or are you including JRPG's?
I'm more of a JRPG player. Only real Western style RPG's I have experience with is the Bioware stuff. Dragon Age, Mass Effect, etc. Out of those types I really liked the original Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic because of the myriad of ways you could solve problems while adventuring. Almost all problems had several ways of completing them. Locked doors could be picked, hacked, or forced open, for example.
About 10 years before SWKOTOR, there was this Sega Genesis version of Shadowrun. The Genesis version, not the SNES, was the more advanced game by far. It was ahead of its time. It was sandboxy before Grand Theft Auto. It had the skills of the RPG and several ways of solving things. You had lists of contacts that weren't just part of the narrative, but offered their own little stories and offered their own goods. You would have random events, and how you were set up determined what you could do. You could get a contact in Lone Star and acquire a heavy weapons permit... or you could wear a trenchcoat and hide your weapons with that. The game was full of runners of all types that you could hire or dismiss whenever you wanted, it was your choice what your group was like. You could temporarily kick out a decker if you needed a mage, and then just re-hire the decker after. Your weapons were customizable, you could put laser sights, silencers, gas chambers, all sorts of stuff. All the time I see new games touting something as revolutionary, and its stuff that this game was doing in 1994. Add to all that a whole other world and gameplay style for running the matrix. The SNES one is good, but its very rail-roady. Generally the people you meet with names are people only there to serve the story. Any contacts you get are going to be story related. You can't really just be a shadowrunner, you're always doing story stuff and aren't really allowed off the rails.
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Post by maxinstuff on Nov 20, 2013 12:11:56 GMT -8
Icewind Dale will always have a special place in my cockles.
If you are looking for something more modern then I would say Dragon Age: Origins. The Witcher is also very good.
However, if you like action and skill in your crpg - Dark Souls Dark Souls Dark Souls.
Dark Souls wins my heart, then betrays me in the most merciless way possible, then invites me back for more. Over and over.
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Post by mook on Nov 21, 2013 4:05:45 GMT -8
I would spend hours just net-running in the Shadowrun console game! Never found a game with a hacking sub-game that even comes close.
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Post by ericfromnj on Nov 21, 2013 7:46:36 GMT -8
Baldur's Gate I and II, purely for the companions and the ability to explore areas, sometimes discovering they were too powerful for your group of adventurers at that time.
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Post by Houndin on Nov 21, 2013 8:03:04 GMT -8
I loved the first Neverwinter Nights game, and the second one isn't bad either. For pure mindless hack and slash (and it's barely an RPG) I loved Diablo2, I played that for years with my family and friends.
For Sci-Fi, Mass Effect 1 was one I really enjoyed on the Xbox360, I never played it on a PC though. The follow-ups, like Diablo3 were big let downs.
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Post by D.T. Pints on Nov 21, 2013 8:34:57 GMT -8
Not one Skyrim mention ?!? If I could multiplayer that game (with just a group of friends...((fuck you wide world of online gamers and your inhuman scatalogical disdain for all life)) I'd still be playing it heavily.
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Post by henryhankovitch on Nov 21, 2013 17:01:33 GMT -8
Planescape: Torment. It's the single best RPG story I've ever experienced. It's just so damn beautiful and alien and gloomy and unique. It's the best thing to come out of the Planescape setting (and maybe the only great thing). It's genuinely tragic.
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. Another case of a game with a very different world and feel from most RPGs. You're a new vampire, slumming around southern California. And every vampire you meet is going to use the fuck out of you, because this is White Wolf. It's a game where your Malkavian can lose an argument with a stop sign. It's also one of those games that's really, really liberal in letting you use stealth/social skills to proceed through the game. (Though you can't avoid all combat. What the hell were you thinking? Buy a shotgun already.)
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Post by guitarspider on Nov 23, 2013 0:50:59 GMT -8
I wholeheartedly support Crusader Kings II. Best strategy-rpg ever made.
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Post by Houndin on Nov 23, 2013 6:43:04 GMT -8
I forgot to mention there's a good web site to get these older games from (as a direct download) it's www.gog.com which stands for Good Old Games. They have updated a lot of the older games that used the older CPU as a time limiter to use the system clock instead, preventing the game from running at hyper-speed. Also, another fun, mindless Hack and Slash with a lot of character design options is the Titan's Quest series.
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Post by druggeddwarf on Nov 23, 2013 8:13:33 GMT -8
Alright.. alright. Let me tell you about Alpha Protocol.
a few years back, Obsidian, full of some of the best writers the world has ever seen, and some of the worst programmers the world has ever seen, decided to make the world's first Espionage RPG. They called it Alpha Protocol.
It didn't get a super high score from Metacritic, the game is full of bugs all over the place, and combat is hit or miss depending on how you feel.
But if you want a game where your choices ACTUALLY Matter, not MASS-EFFECT matter, like every decision you make, everything you say to someone has a consequence, and how you treat people changes how the game plays, this is the game for you.
I want to say stuff about the plotline, but I can't. I would go on and on and ruin it for you. Just try it (on PC I recommend) and you will not regret it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2013 9:16:44 GMT -8
Quite a few good suggestions, especially Alpha Protocol. I still need to finish my last run through that game as I still haven't seen everything.
I would also suggest the Witcher series, well worth multiple play throughs. Any of the elder scroll games, although the leveling can be interesting at times. If you can, grab the Ultima series, especially Ultima underground.
For JRPGs, Ni No Ku Ni, Persona and Final Fantasy, just to round it all off.
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Post by D.T. Pints on Nov 23, 2013 19:09:18 GMT -8
I now need to find persona4! Thanks Wolfe! :-D.
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Post by rickno7 on Nov 23, 2013 20:58:30 GMT -8
The greatest JRPG of all time is Xenogears. Physical copies can be hard to come by, but you can get the game on PSN if you have a PS3. I guess I'll limit my suggestions to things on PSN. After Xenogears cruise over to Final Fantasy 9. 9 was the last of the classic style of FF's that did not try to cater to the J-pop generation. Both of those games have a lot about what it means to be a person, what it means to exist, and tests the limits of redemption. Both have given me insight into approaching certain subjects in my tabletop games, and both have given me lots of material and scenes to steal here and there Here's a trailer for Xenogears. Just don't watch it more than once before playing.
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