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Post by Fiona on Feb 5, 2014 17:33:33 GMT -8
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Post by D.T. Pints on Feb 5, 2014 21:34:14 GMT -8
That stuff is great! I would love to see an INSPIRATIONAL MEDIA thread somewhere on these forums where folks can put their internet search results for great art/music/literature or not so great/sanity loss causing fray. If you look up Contessa Con on the G+ one of the wonderful ladies organizing that event puts up tons of art there as well.
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Post by dizman on Feb 6, 2014 4:08:26 GMT -8
Looks awsome can't wait to see finished books.
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Post by Arcona on Feb 18, 2014 12:23:03 GMT -8
Pretty good! The first few women are a bit show-offy in the chest department but overall its classy and looks gritty. Love the orc one!
Also... what are those space ship stuff after page 10?
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Post by Fiona on Feb 18, 2014 19:42:02 GMT -8
No idea what's up with the space ships. It's a concept artist's site, so chances are it belongs to another set for some other project he/she hasn't bothered to list.
As for the female designs, I think they're all very measured and lovely. That said, I grew up with the likes of Clyde Caldwell, master of the cheesy van painting featuring half naked barbarian chicks. -That- was show-offy. And while I wasn't a big fan of it, at least he was painting what he enjoyed rather than what a committee deemed acceptable, which is where commercial art seems to be headed.
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Post by Arcona on Feb 19, 2014 1:04:26 GMT -8
The barbarian chick in the chain mail bikini might be an archetype but it is also fairly demeaning to us women. I realize a lot of these stereotypes came at an era where the hobby was dominated by men and usually adolescent men with a certain lack of... well... girlfriends but we have come a long way from then.
In any case, I have seen much worse objectification and he is not that 'bad' in that domain. The demi humans are very nice, it just struck me that all the human ladies are on the... abundant side.
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Post by Fiona on Feb 19, 2014 1:40:15 GMT -8
Elmore, Caldwwell, and the late Keith Parkinson are, and were very talented artists, and their love of the female form could be called flattery with the same sincerity you label it demeaning. Incidentally, what I find 'demeaning' is belittling these men as 'adolescent' men with 'no girlfriends' simply because their choice of subject matter isn't to your liking. Funny that I never hear any complaints about the dashing, long-haired dreamboat men on the cover of women's romance novels, or the androgynous beauty of your standard anime/JRPG bishonen. If we are to call it objectification, which I believe is the current buzzword, there's ample stereotypes to be found for both genders. Suffice to say, I am not a fan of the current tone of censorship disguised as activism.
For a progressive, accomplished society, we seem more divided than ever, with very little actual progress to speak of. Just new ways and reasons to be angry at one another. Oh yeah, and I still really dig these designs. Nice to see bright colours making a come back in fantasy art. Grimdark was getting old fast.
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Post by maxinstuff on Feb 19, 2014 5:44:54 GMT -8
I think the size of the weapons the male characters are carrying are far more out of proportion than any of the bewbs.
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Post by The Northman on Feb 19, 2014 22:53:12 GMT -8
Pretty good! The first few women are a bit show-offy in the chest department but overall its classy and looks gritty. Love the orc one! Also... what are those space ship stuff after page 10? I've commented in the past about my agreement that much of the comic and RPG art of the past is pretty ludicrous in its portrayal of women, but I'm not sure what goal we're aiming for if anything in that portfolio was objectionable.
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Post by merryprankster on Apr 6, 2014 16:01:50 GMT -8
Pretty good! The first few women are a bit show-offy in the chest department but overall its classy and looks gritty. Love the orc one! Also... what are those space ship stuff after page 10? I've commented in the past about my agreement that much of the comic and RPG art of the past is pretty ludicrous in its portrayal of women, but I'm not sure what goal we're aiming for if anything in that portfolio was objectionable. Prepubescent?
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