|
Post by joecrak on Apr 16, 2014 14:06:34 GMT -8
In Regards to the multi table game the one email was inquiring about Heres the link to the Google community for KristaCon and Long Cons It gives lots of information on previous uses of this format of gaming, as well as some links to interviews about the format and what the goal is, when run at conventions.
|
|
|
Post by Kainguru on Apr 16, 2014 14:37:25 GMT -8
Moral panics don't necessarily have to be religious. The Mothers Against Drunk Driving thing was considered a moral panic by many at the time. Drunks Against Mad Mothers was started as a parody/commentary about it. Parents Music Resource Center hype about song lyrics wasn't particularly religious and crossed political lines. The ritual Satanic abuse thing (aka McMartin) was definitely not limited to religious people and was promoted by damn near everyone. The Satanic abuse panic affected Rochdale in the UK in the 90's - a very secular and liberal social services took the word of one social worker that the indicators of Satanic Abuse existed the social worker cited documented research as her evaluative criteria: after the dust settled and the children were returned to their parents with apologies it turned out the 'research evidence' was actually an unsubstantiated piece of literature self published by the self appointed guardians of social integrity - an interest group with no professional standing that didn't even understand the concept of empirical evidence based practice let alone adhere to it. All to often these 'things' become self fulfilling - when you look for it you'll see signs of it, even if it's just a coincidence. Moral or secular panic isn't new, it's how authorities frequently exercise their power and maintain their position . . . Look at Fox News, they'd have us believe we live in a world of shit whiten really, compared to 100 years ago, things are much better (we live longer, have heating and better diets, crime is actually down not up etc etc) Aaron
|
|
D.T. Pints
Instigator
JACKERCON 2018: WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY June 22-July 1st
Posts: 2,857
Currently Playing: D&D 5e, Pathfinder, DUNGEONWORLD, Star Wars Edge of the Empire
Currently Running: DUNGEONWORLD, PATHFINDER
|
Post by D.T. Pints on Apr 16, 2014 19:22:57 GMT -8
In Regards to the multi table game the one email was inquiring about Heres the link to the Google community for KristaCon and Long Cons It gives lots of information on previous uses of this format of gaming, as well as some links to interviews about the format and what the goal is, when run at conventions. Great link joecrak! I have always been intrigued with Long Con style gaming. And I think G+ games might actually more readily facilitate doing just that. Ok! I've been chewing on this one for a bit...how about considering a 3-4 GM game each with 3-4 players in...L5R ? Clan specific groups that would then send envoys to other groups to petition them for some other aspect. Crab clan sends an envoy to the Crane clan meanwhile the wall needs to be protected...etc. Do it online and agree that every 2 hours no matter what take a quick 5 min break to check in with each of the GMs and see what's happening. If a sketch of a story connecting the four groups is created I think it could be pretty cool to have those various groups interact. The other potentially fun way to do multiple GMs in an online format comes from some joking in the chatroom during the show. Play a Terminator game in Apocalypse World where character gen of the various hardholds is done together than those various hardholds have to send people out to get supplies, guns, diplomatic relations and in the mist of all this one of the PCs is actually a terminator trying to pick off the PCs one by one. In a four hour con game it could be really damn fun. Thoughts?
|
|
|
Post by joecrak on Apr 16, 2014 19:44:55 GMT -8
In Regards to the multi table game the one email was inquiring about Heres the link to the Google community for KristaCon and Long Cons It gives lots of information on previous uses of this format of gaming, as well as some links to interviews about the format and what the goal is, when run at conventions. Great link joecrak! I have always been intrigued with Long Con style gaming. And I think G+ games might actually more readily facilitate doing just that. Ok! I've been chewing on this one for a bit...how about considering a 3-4 GM game each with 3-4 players in...L5R ? Clan specific groups that would then send envoys to other groups to petition them for some other aspect. Crab clan sends an envoy to the Crane clan meanwhile the wall needs to be protected...etc. Do it online and agree that every 2 hours no matter what take a quick 5 min break to check in with each of the GMs and see what's happening. If a sketch of a story connecting the four groups is created I think it could be pretty cool to have those various groups interact. The other potentially fun way to do multiple GMs in an online format comes from some joking in the chatroom during the show. Play a Terminator game in Apocalypse World where character gen of the various hardholds is done together than those various hardholds have to send people out to get supplies, guns, diplomatic relations and in the mist of all this one of the PCs is actually a terminator trying to pick off the PCs one by one. In a four hour con game it could be really damn fun. Thoughts? I love L5R I Really do. But for a Long Con style game. It is very crunchy. An option to try would be my Friends Powered by the Apocalypse hack of L5R. But as L5R stands with its current amount of crunch, it can take up more time than you might want it to. If you get enough people on board with all the GMs knowing enough of their shit, great. I'm definitely intrigued in seeing how it works out in an online setting.
|
|
|
Post by Forresst on Apr 16, 2014 19:51:15 GMT -8
I wanna play a long game of Dungeon World. It could be super awesome. In fact, if it wasn't for Traveller, I think Dungeon World would be my favourite system.
|
|
|
Post by rickno7 on Apr 16, 2014 20:11:14 GMT -8
I live in a post-Satanic panic south that still has these weird rumblings of the era. I come across so many weird fvckups that do a lot of twisted logic to be able to ignore what they do but still make sure to hate the things their parents taught them to hate(religion, amahrite?). My girlfriend has a friend that actively warned her against ever dating me(4+ years ago) because Dungeons and Dragons players are satanic, just like her mom taught her. Meanwhile, this same person was so completely addicted to World of Warcraft. Another girl I knew would not touch Magic the Gathering, and went to churches that burned 1st ed D&D books in bonfires... but obsessed over a guy that played sci-fi RPG's, and claimed they were completely different, and that his actions were ok. Most recently, in the past year, a friend of mine bought one of their friend's teen son a copy of the Pathfinder book. Once this person(who is in their late 20's) found out that Pathfinder is basically D&D, they took the books away and shredded them. This same person constantly updates their Facebook on how awesome Game of Thrones is.
Its not as bad as it once was around here. We don't have Churches picketing outside the front of game shops(though that might be because there's not many game shops), and vaguely fantasy themed board games show up in Wal-mart now. I do not really hang with the Church crowd since my early teens, so I can't say if its still warned about in Sunday School like it used to be. I do live in an area where Jack Chick comics were placed on people's windshields, and were standard issue at Church youth gatherings when I had attended them with my cousins back then. It would not surprise me now if they don't still use them.
|
|
|
Post by joecrak on Apr 16, 2014 20:25:08 GMT -8
I wanna play a long game of Dungeon World. It could be super awesome. In fact, if it wasn't for Traveller, I think Dungeon World would be my favourite system. I highly recommend trying them out should you ever see the opportunity. I know KristaCon runs events at GenCon, but I've heard GenCon does not approved of their game format....which is dumb. But It works great for people that enjoy seeing their characters develop and grow over e extended periods of play I've playing in AW; DW; Dresden Fate; and Marvel Heroic. I'm looking forward to the possibility of a MonsterHearts LongCon, where each table can represent a different class room in school.
|
|
|
Post by ayslyn on Apr 17, 2014 11:31:38 GMT -8
Is it common in Numenara for people to be let into areas with only glass separating them from the vacuum of space with guns and ammunition on their person? Doesn't matter. Forget Numenara. What if in a Traveler game a player in the first adventure decides that the only way to beat the antagonist is to vent the entire ship's atmosphere? The player is trying to initiate a party wipe. If the rest of the party is cool with it, then it's fine. But, it's not something one player should decide on their own.
|
|
|
Post by yojimbohawkins on Apr 17, 2014 12:19:26 GMT -8
Err, didn't Tappy run an online Traveller game a while ago? Bill was a player, as I recall.
|
|
snoman314
Journeyman Douchebag
Posts: 225
Preferred Game Systems: GURPS
|
Post by snoman314 on Apr 17, 2014 15:59:56 GMT -8
]Doesn't matter. Forget Numenara. What if in a Traveler game a player in the first adventure decides that the only way to beat the antagonist is to vent the entire ship's atmosphere? The player is trying to initiate a party wipe. If the rest of the party is cool with it, then it's fine. But, it's not something one player should decide on their own. There are so many ways I can think of where this wouldn't even be a TPK, let alone destroy the whole setting. Unless the ship is in jumpspace, in which case that ship is never coming back. But the setting will still be there.
|
|
|
Post by Kainguru on Apr 17, 2014 16:04:49 GMT -8
]Doesn't matter. Forget Numenara. What if in a Traveler game a player in the first adventure decides that the only way to beat the antagonist is to vent the entire ship's atmosphere? The player is trying to initiate a party wipe. If the rest of the party is cool with it, then it's fine. But, it's not something one player should decide on their own. There are so many ways I can think of where this wouldn't even be a TPK, let alone destroy the whole setting. Unless the ship is in jumpspace, in which case that ship is never coming back. But the setting will still be there. Alien Aaron
|
|
|
Post by ayslyn on Apr 17, 2014 17:33:09 GMT -8
Well, again. Doesn't matter if they're "only" killing the players, or they're taking the whole setting.
Although to be fair, the setting as written doesn't have a bubble surrounding Everything. I suspect they were just on some platform or ship and they were the only ones at risk.
|
|
|
Post by Fiona on Apr 18, 2014 17:51:37 GMT -8
I still have this lingering fascination with Numenera based on the art and the concept. But it's also one of those things I'm afraid that I will admire from afar, and ruin when I look closer and realize it was better through the looking glass.
|
|
daniel
Journeyman Douchebag
Posts: 217
|
Post by daniel on Apr 20, 2014 8:03:19 GMT -8
So kind of like Rifts?
|
|
|
Post by Kainguru on Apr 20, 2014 8:54:52 GMT -8
Well I believe Stork was accidentally referencing the Vance original - technology as magic, last days of earth, the sun as a red giant (pre-nova) - rather than Numenera . . . easily done, considering the parallel development of both world settings - by parallel I mean one precedes the other by 40+ years, is included in the 'should read list' of the 1e DMG and cited as a source of inspiration for OD&D (ie Vancian magic) the other was written by someone who worked on a later development of D&D. John Lennon used to sit on a song for ages before developing it, because he wanted to be sure he hadn't accidentally appropriated someone else's ideas . . . this is sound practice. Especially when Robin Laws had already created an RPG using the (acknowledged) source setting: www.pelgranepress.com/?p=5074Aaron
|
|