a Rant about the Tian Gods of Golarion and why i hate them
Sept 27, 2016 14:03:49 GMT -8
Post by ilina on Sept 27, 2016 14:03:49 GMT -8
back when i played pathfinder, the only clerics i remember seeing, all worshipped gods that offered the war domain and access to an exotic single edged curved bladed slashing weapon with a base 18-20 crit chance as their favored weapon. Pathfinder wanted to diversify the god choices, but knew everybody was going to pick the gods who met the same fucking criteria.
so they made newer and better exotic single edged curved bladed slashing weapons, which lead to ultimate combat, or ultimate book of Cliche Pandering Weeaboo Archetypes. later, they introduced the continental guide to Tian Xia, which included a mountain of Deities that all sounded fucking identical on paper. they all had some exotic single edged curved bladed slashing weapon with a base 18-20 crit chance as their favored weapon, they all offered the fucking war domain, they all offered 2 other combat oriented domains that also offered potent combat feats as granted powers, they all had combat oriented subdomains, they all had alignment restrictions that were so lenient a murderhobo could be a chronic murderhobo and not lose their powers. these gods even had exclusive archetypes designed to turn the cleric into a better fighter than the fucking fighter at the expense of some abilities like channel energy or the trivial cost of a high level spell slot later down the road, because most of the good cleric spells are levels 4-6. and most of the Sacrificed slots were 7+.
this led to a trend where every cleric was exactly the fucking same, they all wore O-Yoroi because it was better than fucking plate, as well as cheaper and lighter, they all carried a katana and daikyu. they all had a bunch of combat feats, few spells higher than 6th level, absolutely no use for channel energy, and pretty much prepared exclusively buffs. and they all took those combat boosting archetypes. suddenly, Aasimaar Clerics of "Tsukuyomi" were fucking everywhere, because angelkin aasimaar had bonuses to strength and wisdom or strength and charisma (player choice) and literally replaced fighters.
these clerics of Tian Gods would try to make up convoluted excuses for why they should draw power from the gods of Tian Xia when they were either nowhere near Tian Xia, would have absolutely no way to gain Exposure to Tian Culture, or were playing in a Setting Where Tian Xia didn't exist. they didn't want to explore the fish out of water scenario of being an honorable knight errant in medieval europe like they pitched with the reskin of the samurai class. they wanted one thing, to be a self buffing self healing murderhobo with the best gear in the fucking game and fap to their badass katana wielding mary sue.
i fucking hate the gods from the Tian Xia book for this reason. they all seem to be built for murderhobo clerics to minmax with. they aren't even the proper Japanese gods they are intended as a stand in for. they aren't even gods of Bushido, they are gods intended to be used by clerics who merely desire to play the role of murderhobos.
so they made newer and better exotic single edged curved bladed slashing weapons, which lead to ultimate combat, or ultimate book of Cliche Pandering Weeaboo Archetypes. later, they introduced the continental guide to Tian Xia, which included a mountain of Deities that all sounded fucking identical on paper. they all had some exotic single edged curved bladed slashing weapon with a base 18-20 crit chance as their favored weapon, they all offered the fucking war domain, they all offered 2 other combat oriented domains that also offered potent combat feats as granted powers, they all had combat oriented subdomains, they all had alignment restrictions that were so lenient a murderhobo could be a chronic murderhobo and not lose their powers. these gods even had exclusive archetypes designed to turn the cleric into a better fighter than the fucking fighter at the expense of some abilities like channel energy or the trivial cost of a high level spell slot later down the road, because most of the good cleric spells are levels 4-6. and most of the Sacrificed slots were 7+.
this led to a trend where every cleric was exactly the fucking same, they all wore O-Yoroi because it was better than fucking plate, as well as cheaper and lighter, they all carried a katana and daikyu. they all had a bunch of combat feats, few spells higher than 6th level, absolutely no use for channel energy, and pretty much prepared exclusively buffs. and they all took those combat boosting archetypes. suddenly, Aasimaar Clerics of "Tsukuyomi" were fucking everywhere, because angelkin aasimaar had bonuses to strength and wisdom or strength and charisma (player choice) and literally replaced fighters.
these clerics of Tian Gods would try to make up convoluted excuses for why they should draw power from the gods of Tian Xia when they were either nowhere near Tian Xia, would have absolutely no way to gain Exposure to Tian Culture, or were playing in a Setting Where Tian Xia didn't exist. they didn't want to explore the fish out of water scenario of being an honorable knight errant in medieval europe like they pitched with the reskin of the samurai class. they wanted one thing, to be a self buffing self healing murderhobo with the best gear in the fucking game and fap to their badass katana wielding mary sue.
i fucking hate the gods from the Tian Xia book for this reason. they all seem to be built for murderhobo clerics to minmax with. they aren't even the proper Japanese gods they are intended as a stand in for. they aren't even gods of Bushido, they are gods intended to be used by clerics who merely desire to play the role of murderhobos.