sbloyd
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Post by sbloyd on Dec 17, 2014 14:19:00 GMT -8
#orclivesmatter
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Post by lowkeyoh on Dec 17, 2014 14:51:54 GMT -8
I'm right there with you. There was another stupid discussion on whether or not it's permissible to kill baby orcs in the DnD subreddit a day ago, and I nearly had a stroke from anger responding to people who kept insisting "Well, they're evil, maaaaan"
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Post by Kainguru on Dec 18, 2014 7:46:11 GMT -8
TBH I've no opinion on either side of the debate: the flavour and premises underlying any given game where this might come up would be the discriminator for determining in which direction the moral compass should swing. The fact that it's trending as a hashtag is what worries me : given that orcs-aren't-real . . . call me a hippy (and I hate hippies) but I believe #feedthehomelessthisxmas et al more worthy hashtags to be tending. Make all Orcs Tolkienesque Orcs and the problem is solved, because (traditionally) there are no baby Orcs in the Tolkien Mythos - Orcs being Elves corrupted by foul magiks, they are 'manufactured' rather than born . . . Basically I'm glad it hasn't come up . . . it's X-Mas : peace and good will and let's-kill-the-lich-lord-together for everyone . . . [scratches head, looks up from keyboard and wonders: 'are all liches necessarily evil? what if a benevolent leader sacrifices his humanity and enters lichdom to extend his life so as to finish some great work that will benefit all humanity?'] [slaps self on back of head with a self admonishment : 'stop it!!!!'] Aaron
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sbloyd
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Post by sbloyd on Dec 19, 2014 4:41:36 GMT -8
In Eldemy, I am figuring the orcs are more like Warcraft orcs, since those were based off Stu Venable and Bill Roper 's old Orc culture write up...
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Post by archmagezemoc on Dec 19, 2014 17:31:10 GMT -8
I agree with sbloyld on what Orcs I think they are basing off, but what about W40K Orks? Basically a sentient fungus war ready and matured upon "birth" from the ground! Muahahahaha, also the spores of their fungus can create a whole ecology on a planet if allowed to like their Fauna (plantfood, typically shrooms), to squigs (meatfood), to snotlings (slaves), and orks themselves.
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Muddyboots
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Post by Muddyboots on Dec 19, 2014 18:15:53 GMT -8
Kainguru has my agreement on this.
This is the same logic that people used in the 80's to say "D&D is satanic." Being a borderline Anarchist, my feeling is that I'll kill all the baby orcs I want in my game and you can save them in yours, just don't tell me I have to follow your morality. To me the only valid question is, do all the voluntary participants in my game feel welcome and comfortable with the subject matter at my table? I have the same problem wit so called "politically correct speech." Who's politics? Who defines correct? Any "should" statement not preceded by "I" is aggression and can be responded to as such. I.e. If you say "I don't think I should kill baby orcs in my game" that's fine! If you say "you shouldn't kill baby orcs in your game", pack up and get out of my house!
There are a lot of tropes in gaming that might offend someone, including its very existence! There are enough real world conditions and situations with which to take offense. If people choose to stay on the safe porch of policing rpg morality, I am not going to applaude them. They are doing it for ego gratification and no other reason.
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sbloyd
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Post by sbloyd on Dec 20, 2014 11:50:32 GMT -8
I feel I should point out that this thread is in the Eldemy AP board, so some of this is moot.
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Post by Muddyboots on Dec 20, 2014 17:51:12 GMT -8
That's a good point! The issue still exists, maybe it needs a different location.
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