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Mote 33
Aug 27, 2017 22:49:30 GMT -8
Post by Starteller on Aug 27, 2017 22:49:30 GMT -8
Stake Through Heart Stakes are Melee, like knives They are in the Melee Weapons Chart p.280, right below the Stake Through Heart: Paragraphs Also, any Bashing to the head become lethal. That's why if you want to use bullets on vampires aim the head (+2 diff) p.274 Targeting:P.284 Applying Damage
There are three damage types in Vampire. Bashing damage includes all forms of temporary injury — from punches, clubs, and other blunt trauma. Vampires and only vampires consider firearms attacks to be bashing damage as well — unless the bullets are aimed at the head (difficulty 8), in which case they are considered lethal Melee Weapons Chart
Weapon Damage Conceal Sap+ Strength +1 P Club+ Strength +2 T Knife Strength +1 J Sword Strength +2 T Axe Strength +3 N Stake* Strength +1 T + Denotes a blunt object. Blunt objects inflict bashing damage unless targeted at the head (see “Targeting,” p. 274). Head shots inflict lethal damage. * May paralyze a vampire if driven through the heart. The attacker must target the heart (difficulty 9) and score three damage successes. Stu Venable stork
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Mote 33
Aug 28, 2017 12:14:44 GMT -8
Post by sovereigncitizenkane on Aug 28, 2017 12:14:44 GMT -8
Can't remember if it was episode 32 or 33 that it got mentioned in but someone took bashing damage and their halving it ended with half a point of damage. Asa I think it was. I think it still got marked down as one point. Just to help out, on page 285 of the core, it does specify that you round the damage down.
I think it works well that way to keep up the idea that bashing is mostly a non issue for vamps.
Also Moties be careful with that damage. Even just going into Torpor, Albert who I believe is at Humanity 3, is going to be spending fifty years in Torpor before he can even try to awaken.
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Mote 33
Aug 28, 2017 12:35:28 GMT -8
Post by Starteller on Aug 28, 2017 12:35:28 GMT -8
Also Moties be careful with that damage. Even just going into Torpor, Albert who I believe is at Humanity 3, is going to be spending fifty years in Torpor before he can even try to awaken. Someone with Medicine could speed up the process but yes with Humanity of 3 even if they put him in a pool of blood it should still take years to wake him up. But I think Albert has now a Path so higher than 3 and act not in a Humane way but like more someone brainwashed in a sect (of hunters, pack). We heard him mentioning a lot in this episode about Gangrel should stay together (forming a pack) stork
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Mote 33
Aug 28, 2017 16:54:32 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Aug 28, 2017 16:54:32 GMT -8
I feel like there was a real missed opportunity for serious drama when Asa was staked, which she shouldn't have been by the way since she soaked all the damage.
P.280 To stake a vampire, an attacker must target the heart (difficulty 9). If the attack succeeds and inflicts at least three health levels of damage, the target is immobilized.
It has to inflict damage, so if she soaks it, she isn't staked. It's a shame cuz it would have been reaaaaaally nice to see how far things could have gotten mwahahahahaha. The shit was so close to hitting the fan. It would have been glorious! The tension was nice though, the whole "will they, won't they" (kill each other of course) was very entertaining.
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Mote 33
Aug 28, 2017 17:08:34 GMT -8
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Post by sovereigncitizenkane on Aug 28, 2017 17:08:34 GMT -8
Also Moties be careful with that damage. Even just going into Torpor, Albert who I believe is at Humanity 3, is going to be spending fifty years in Torpor before he can even try to awaken. Someone with Medicine could speed up the process but yes with Humanity of 3 even if they put him in a pool of blood it should still take years to wake him up. But I think Albert has now a Path so higher than 3 and act not in a Humane way but like more someone brainwashed in a sect (of hunters, pack). We heard him mentioning a lot in this episode about Gangrel should stay together (forming a pack) stork I'll have to look through the book again but as far as I remember from the torpor section, nothing speeds it up, not even Force feeding them blood.
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Mote 33
Sept 5, 2017 17:57:09 GMT -8
Post by chronovore on Sept 5, 2017 17:57:09 GMT -8
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Mote 33
Sept 8, 2017 7:35:20 GMT -8
Post by weaselcreature on Sept 8, 2017 7:35:20 GMT -8
What did I miss with Asa? Why is she worried about the moon? I know she's getting some wolfen features from her frenzies and such, but I didn't think that had anything to do with the moon or lycanthropy.
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Mote 33
Sept 8, 2017 12:46:32 GMT -8
Post by stork on Sept 8, 2017 12:46:32 GMT -8
I believe she took Moon Mad as a flaw.
Moon Mad -3 flaw (BCB) Your character becomes quite mad during one of the phases of the moon. The character is the victim of dreams, nightmares and portents during the full moon. The character has a great deal of difficulty controlling themselves (add +10 to any rolls for the character to control impulses +5 to resist frenzy if a frenzying supernatural has this flaw). The character is violent and irritable. The character's aura blazes with a white hot flame during this period.
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Mote 33
Sept 8, 2017 13:16:31 GMT -8
Post by Stu Venable on Sept 8, 2017 13:16:31 GMT -8
It's Lunacy:
Lunacy (2pt. Flaw) You are affected by the phases of the moon, increasing your chances to frenzy. Under the crescent moon, difficulties to avoid frenzy increase by one. Under the half or gibbous moon, difficulties rise by two. When the moon is full, difficulties increase by three.
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Mote 33
Sept 8, 2017 14:21:06 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Sept 8, 2017 14:21:06 GMT -8
I feel like Stork was making a joke there but I think it went right over my head... Was that a reference to something?
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Mote 33
Sept 9, 2017 12:17:37 GMT -8
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Post by uncommonman on Sept 9, 2017 12:17:37 GMT -8
I feel like there was a real missed opportunity for serious drama when Asa was staked, which she shouldn't have been by the way since she soaked all the damage. P.280To stake a vampire, an attacker must target the heart (difficulty 9). If the attack succeeds and inflicts at least three health levels of damage, the target is immobilized. It has to inflict damage, so if she soaks it, she isn't staked. It's a shame cuz it would have been reaaaaaally nice to see how far things could have gotten mwahahahahaha. The shit was so close to hitting the fan. It would have been glorious! The tension was nice though, the whole "will they, won't they" (kill each other of course) was very entertaining. I have no experience in vampire but I know that something didn't make sense with the stakeing, why would she be in torpor if the stake didn't hurt her.
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Mote 33
Sept 9, 2017 14:49:34 GMT -8
Post by chronovore on Sept 9, 2017 14:49:34 GMT -8
I feel like there was a real missed opportunity for serious drama when Asa was staked, which she shouldn't have been by the way since she soaked all the damage. P.280To stake a vampire, an attacker must target the heart (difficulty 9). If the attack succeeds and inflicts at least three health levels of damage, the target is immobilized. It has to inflict damage, so if she soaks it, she isn't staked. It's a shame cuz it would have been reaaaaaally nice to see how far things could have gotten mwahahahahaha. The shit was so close to hitting the fan. It would have been glorious! The tension was nice though, the whole "will they, won't they" (kill each other of course) was very entertaining. I have no experience in vampire but I know that something didn't make sense with the stakeing, why would she be in torpor if the stake didn't hurt her. There's always the "because it's a game" excuse, but if you don't feel like falling back to that, think about acupuncture. The idea is that the subject is pierced, the needle lays alongside important nerves which influence any number of symptoms. The stake could similarly achieve its goal by neatly bypassing any damaging muscle or organs, and still resonate by laying alongside (OK, well, "inside") the targeted nerves.
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Mote 33
Sept 9, 2017 15:12:56 GMT -8
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Post by uncommonman on Sept 9, 2017 15:12:56 GMT -8
I have no experience in vampire but I know that something didn't make sense with the stakeing, why would she be in torpor if the stake didn't hurt her. There's always the "because it's a game" excuse, but if you don't feel like falling back to that, think about acupuncture. The idea is that the subject is pierced, the needle lays alongside important nerves which influence any number of symptoms. The stake could similarly achieve its goal by neatly bypassing any damaging muscle or organs, and still resonate by laying alongside (OK, well, "inside") the targeted nerves. I was imagining it more like soak is (un)natural armour that prevents the wound. If it was a knife wound I wouldn't say she would bleed/get a open cut, therfore is seems strange that a stake would pierce all the way to her heart. But I don't know the rules and (rpg) vampire lore.
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Robert Likins
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Mote 33
Sept 13, 2017 22:20:49 GMT -8
Post by Robert Likins on Sept 13, 2017 22:20:49 GMT -8
So, the only thing I know about White Wolf rules are what you've said on the podcast.
That said, I just listened to this episode, and at one point someone asked if Asa was wearing body armor, which got me thinking. I know it was said that when she changes form, anything she's carrying is subsumed into the animal, but does that also work the other way?
Like, if Asa was outfitted with Police K9 body Armor while in wolf form, and then changed back to human, would the armor stay with the wolf or just fall off?
If it would work it might be interesting to think about.
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Mote 33
Sept 13, 2017 22:27:15 GMT -8
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Post by uncommonman on Sept 13, 2017 22:27:15 GMT -8
So, the only thing I know about White Wolf rules are what you've said on the podcast. That said, I just listened to this episode, and at one point someone asked if Asa was wearing body armor, which got me thinking. I know it was said that when she changes form, anything she's carrying is subsumed into the animal, but does that also work the other way? Like, if Asa was outfitted with Police K9 body Armor while in wolf form, and then changed back to human, would the armor stay with the wolf or just fall off? If it would work it might be interesting to think about. If Asa has silly dogg clothes would they stay on?
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