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Post by Kainguru on May 26, 2018 4:25:01 GMT -8
It’s not perfect, Ron Howard had to obviously rush bits thru in the final re-edit and reshoots. BUT it is a jolly good fun movie. The best aspect? It ties itself neatly into the Clone Wars and Rebels tv canon plus we get answers to many questions - yep they both cheated at Sabbac and those dice mean something else entirely. Does it deserve a sequel? Yes. Is the new droid annoying? Yes, intentionally so. It serves the story well. Are the spice mines grim? Hell yeah I feel had they had more time to film it properly some aspects of the Kessel run would have been expanded on a bit better. I hope the Blu-ray has an extended cut to fill in some of the missing character development. Things were touched on but you could see the time constraints. Hard to tell what was Howard’s and what was from the original shoot - so it blended better than Rogue Ones hasty re-edit. Favourite moment? When Chewie first takes the co-pilots chair next to Han on the Falcon Alden Ehrenreich? Yeah, he works as a young Han. Starts a bit stilted then he warms to the role, gets a lot of the originals body language down right by about half way thru. The coaching from Harrison Ford obviously paid off. Still no confirmation if they used subtle CGI to help with facial expressions, if they did it was seamless. Darth Maul!!!! Say no more Han Shoots First. Aaron PS: there were more than a few less than subtle nods towards Firefly. Which was a good thing.
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Post by fredrix on May 26, 2018 13:17:32 GMT -8
Yeah. Some kid I don’t think much of at first grows into the role and becomes Han. Continuity errors are retconned amusingly, and some characters that are new to me (but may feature in rebels?) deserve more screen time. Warwick Davies gets to not wear a mask.
Pheobe Waller-Bridge gives the finger to incels and moaning male basement dwellers, in a character VERY similar to the one my daughter designed for Edge of Empire, even down to the name (hers was LE<3).
I could stand to watch it again ...
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Post by Kainguru on May 26, 2018 23:21:16 GMT -8
Well they did own the originals Parsec error - they managed to fudge the Kessel run down to distance not time. A hard fudge to pull off: the legends explanation was similar involving navigating a path thru numerous black holes making the shortest distance the fastest and hardest to pull off. Hard pressed to think of a better fudge than the one we got. Aaron
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Post by lowkeyoh on May 26, 2018 23:25:14 GMT -8
I don't care that parts of the movie was paced strange. I don't care if the plot was completely and utterly inconsequential. I don't care that some of the acting was less than stellar.
Space Squid getting sucked into a black hole. Space heist. Robotic revolution.
I'm 110% on board.
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Post by D.T. Pints on May 28, 2018 8:48:30 GMT -8
Yep, loved it. What would you say the "Avengers-esque" reveal of Maul was all about ? Will Alden reprise the role ? Or will they now follow the Q'uira character? I really loved having three ten year olds in front of me and also the fact that we were cackling at the same things. Real fountain of youth that movie was...
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Post by fredrix on May 28, 2018 11:23:08 GMT -8
Also, my Green and Pleasant Land companions (while I have you here...) is there a potential for you to run a Jackercon game this June ?? You don’t always manage to pick dates I already have booked, but mostly you do Can’t do the first weekend, but might be able to do something around the 30th. Probably Coriolis, or Unknown Armies. At this stage I am not promising anything.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2018 4:42:06 GMT -8
Given I'm not planning on seeing Solo can somebody point to how Maul is still alive and more importantly whether they've made it work. Quick Google points to him showing up in some of the cartoons but I'm still a bit wtf, he was chopped in half FFS before falling what was implied to be a great distance. Him still being alive strikes me as superhero level of death not mattering.
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Post by kaitoujuliet on May 29, 2018 5:58:42 GMT -8
It was a nice popcorn flick. I enjoyed it.
Alden Ehrenreich was fine to occasionally "Hey, that was pretty good." I liked the fact that they made him smart even when he was comparatively naive. Donald Glover steals every scene he's in. And given that you know the love interest is not going to stick around, they went the more interesting route in having her willing to work with the syndicates. (A friend of mine said, "She's in a noir, and she knows it.")
My two main quibbles were these:
1. I was hoping for a bit more Ocean's 11 or Leverage in space--more con work, elaborate plans, and split-second timing. Instead, it was mostly just explosions, chases, and fight scenes. Which were entertaining, so I'm not complaining too hard. But it does make me look forward even more to Ocean's 8.
2. I can't explain this one, and I won't be surprised if no one agrees with me, but frequently during the first half especially, I kept thinking, "This doesn't feel like Star Wars." But I couldn't put my finger on why. After all, you have the Empire, you have TIE fighters, you have named characters ... but it still didn't quite have the recognizable ring, somehow. Maybe the fact that we barely saw any known SW alien races or droid models, apart from a couple of super-brief (literal "blink and you miss it") background shots is part of it?
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Post by fredrix on May 29, 2018 11:15:20 GMT -8
Given I'm not planning on seeing Solo can somebody point to how Maul is still alive and more importantly whether they've made it work. Quick Google points to him showing up in some of the cartoons but I'm still a bit wtf, he was chopped in half FFS before falling what was implied to be a great distance. Him still being alive strikes me as superhero level of death not mattering. You get zero clue from the film about how he survived. It’s just a last scene reveal.
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Post by D.T. Pints on May 29, 2018 17:32:41 GMT -8
There's some mechanical leg action going on but thats about it. I imagine thats the biggest nod to the prequels yet having Maul show up. kaitoujuliet I think you'll find yourself saying that more and more as other directors get to take a shot at the world with their own cinematographer. I think there's a "this does/doesn't feel" like SW because we've had the originals around so long they've just become the end all iconic look and feel of what SW means. I look forward to seeing those notions challenged. I feel like they have to if a dozen more movies are on their way and have any hope of being innovative and able to stand on their own.
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Post by akavidar on May 29, 2018 18:01:56 GMT -8
I watched the first 2 seasons of SW Rebels and Darth Maul was limping around in that quite a bit, but no mention of how he survived.
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Post by EricaOdd on May 29, 2018 18:28:11 GMT -8
And now we know why C-3P0 was so shocked at how the Falcon's nav computer spoke to him in Empire Strikes Back. What with it's "most peculiar dialect."
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Post by mook on May 29, 2018 21:04:30 GMT -8
Whew! I'm just glad I have the Internet to tell me how terrible it was. Like, I thought I had a really fun time roller-coasting through the origins of a much-beloved character, but turns out it was a steaming pile that ruined the new franchise. "Last Jedi" too, apparently. Who knew? Snark aside, I thought it was a great ride. Not the best SW movie ever but certainly far from the worst, and left me eager for a sequel or two.
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Post by fredrix on May 30, 2018 1:39:47 GMT -8
Hold on? The internet is saying it’s crap?
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Post by EricaOdd on May 30, 2018 1:57:26 GMT -8
The only thing that I eye-rolled at is that it's 2018 and a conversation between a human and a droid qualified for failing the Bechdel Test.
Ok, for those in the back... female characters can talk to each other about something besides whether or not they like that cute boy...
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