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Post by fredrix on Feb 18, 2014 10:14:18 GMT -8
Goddamn, that Dutch guy was a dick. Alternatively could he be proof that THE REST OF THE WORLD calls more-than-one-brick "Lego" ? Look, try this: I shit once on your argument. It's a shit. I come back day after day and shit on your arguments. It's a pile of shit. Not "shits".
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Post by RobMITC on Feb 18, 2014 12:47:23 GMT -8
So you would say "I took multiple shit", but not "I took multiple shits"?
You are viewing shit as you would mud where multiple shits in one spot would lead to a larger pile of shit, not a number of individual ones, but if you were to shit in one corner, then the other and wanted to point both out to someone else you wouldn't say "Look at that shit", or even "Look at those shit", you would plural it with "Look at those shits".
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fredrix
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Post by fredrix on Feb 18, 2014 13:33:08 GMT -8
Well the scatalogical example was mostly for laughs, but no, if I shit in two corners, I've laid two cables/turds/logs, not shits. Of course the act to taking two shits ( or giving two shits) is plural. And if I'm acting like a shit, and you count me and the Dutchman, the we are indeed two shits... OK, try this one. You Americans like to hunt right? You shoot one deer. It's a deer. You shoot two, it's two deer, not two deers. In Brokeback Mountain they farm sheep, not sheeps. Seriously though, I've been thinking about this (more than I should) and I've got a theory about why you Americans get Lego wrong. Let me check something out and I'll get back to you.
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Post by fredrix on Feb 18, 2014 14:30:55 GMT -8
Hmmmm, no my theory has no supporting evidence, but let me explain how I was thinking. I'll start with a quote: At 4 years old, the way I understood it was one block was a Lego, It dawned on me while driving between to clients today, that the issue ISN'T entirely about "Legos". It starts with "a Lego". There's no such thing as a Lego - it's a brick, made by a company called Lego. It's a Lego brick (or tile, or plate, or wheel, or axle, or light-sabre blade, or minifig etc, etc) as opposed to a wooden brick, or a yellow brick. Lego isn't a noun at all, it's an adjective! So my assertion that "the plural of Lego is Lego" was in fact, entirely the wrong premise! But that wasn't enough for me. Why does the rest of the world call a pile of Lego "Lego"? Because (I suddenly remembered) back when I was a kid it was called "Lego System." It was printed on the box. So I wondered, when I was a kid, did that name, "Lego System" teach me that "Lego" was the name of the system, not the bricks. Then I remembered what I learned at the Strong National Museum of Play in Rochester NY - Lego was made under license in the US and Canada by Samsonite in the 60s. I theorised that perhaps they didn't call it "Lego System" but a quick Google just now proves me wrong, it was "Lego System by Samsonite". So, no excuse...
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Post by maxinstuff on Feb 18, 2014 15:50:08 GMT -8
Hmmmm, no my theory has no supporting evidence, but let me explain how I was thinking. I'll start with a quote: At 4 years old, the way I understood it was one block was a Lego, It dawned on me while driving between to clients today, that the issue ISN'T entirely about "Legos". It starts with "a Lego". There's no such thing as a Lego - it's a brick, made by a company called Lego. It's a Lego brick (or tile, or plate, or wheel, or axle, or light-sabre blade, or minifig etc, etc) as opposed to a wooden brick, or a yellow brick. Lego isn't a noun at all, it's an adjective! So my assertion that "the plural of Lego is Lego" was in fact, entirely the wrong premise! But that wasn't enough for me. Why does the rest of the world call a pile of Lego "Lego"? Because (I suddenly remembered) back when I was a kid it was called "Lego System." It was printed on the box. So I wondered, when I was a kid, did that name, "Lego System" teach me that "Lego" was the name of the system, not the bricks. Then I remembered what I learned at the Strong National Museum of Play in Rochester NY - Lego was made under license in the US and Canada by Samsonite in the 60s. I theorised that perhaps they didn't call it "Lego System" but a quick Google just now proves me wrong, it was "Lego System by Samsonite". So, no excuse... Because of this thread, I need a Kleenex tissue.
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Post by Fiona on Feb 19, 2014 2:48:29 GMT -8
The sound quality is excellent in these live shows. I listen to a lot of podcasts during my work shifts, and usually a live show is reason for my ears to be afraid. Yours are always a pleasure. Whatever you're doing to get such a clear sound, kudos.
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Post by druggeddwarf on Feb 19, 2014 5:25:27 GMT -8
Just finished listening. Queens cavaliers sounds like my kind of thing. I'll check it out.
Also, as a second language English speaker, I say everyone is entitled to say what they want as long as other people understand*. No one should have to worry about using commas or adding an S to the end of a word if people still get it. It's all cool
*except 'I could care less'. Stop saying that.
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Post by maxinstuff on Feb 19, 2014 5:32:38 GMT -8
*except 'I could care less'. Stop saying that. Yeah it's a good example of words meaning the opposite of what they say. "I couldn't care less" is acceptable. I will say Australians are some of the worst offenders for that type of thing though. Saying what something isn't. We call guys with red hair "bluey". That ain't cricket.
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Post by guitarspider on Feb 19, 2014 6:18:24 GMT -8
The way our language is constructed, we need a comfortable way to distinguish between a single Lego block and the dozens of shrapnel pieces our nephew left scattered on the hardwood floor for us to discover on our midnight piss run. That is, in fact, not the case. There are plenty of examples of word forms that do not distinguish between plural and singular in all kinds of languages. If we're setting a table in Germany and I shout "MESSER!" at you, because maybe we're in a bit of a hurry, the only way to tell what amount of Messer I meant is context. Is the Latin word servi singular or plural? No way to tell. It gets even better. Of the ten possible cases for fructus, no less than four (two singular, two plural) are... fructus. Even English is completely indifferent to the amount of water you fill into your glass, you're not drinking waters just because you're drinking several glasses of it. And so on. Besides, I don't see what's so uncomfortable about LEGO bricks. Germans say that all the time. Then again we have words like Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz (yes, it's real, google it). So maybe stay clear.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 12:11:22 GMT -8
The way our language is constructed, we need a comfortable way to distinguish between a single Lego block and the dozens of shrapnel pieces our nephew left scattered on the hardwood floor for us to discover on our midnight piss run. That is, in fact, not the case. There are plenty of examples of word forms that do not distinguish between plural and singular in all kinds of languages. If we're setting a table in Germany and I shout "MESSER!" at you, because maybe we're in a bit of a hurry, the only way to tell what amount of Messer I meant is context. Is the Latin word servi singular or plural? No way to tell. It gets even better. Of the ten possible cases for fructus, no less than four (two singular, two plural) are... fructus. Even English is completely indifferent to the amount of water you fill into your glass, you're not drinking waters just because you're drinking several glasses of it. And so on. Besides, I don't see what's so uncomfortable about LEGO bricks. Germans say that all the time. Then again we have words like Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz (yes, it's real, google it). So maybe stay clear. You forgot bison, deer, and squid. However, my comment was limited only to English in general and the case of the pluralization of Lego in particular. "Lego bricks" would be a perfectly good solution if we Americans weren't so faul.
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Post by tyler on Feb 19, 2014 19:15:59 GMT -8
I will say Australians are some of the worst offenders for that type of thing though. Saying what something isn't. We call guys with red hair "bluey". That ain't cricket. You also call people you like, 'cunt'. Also people you don't like. And people you are indifferent to. So, whatever, cunt.
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Post by Kainguru on Feb 19, 2014 19:24:34 GMT -8
I will say Australians are some of the worst offenders for that type of thing though. Saying what something isn't. We call guys with red hair "bluey". That ain't cricket. You also call people you like, 'cunt'. Also people you don't like. And people you are indifferent to. So, whatever, cunt. . . . and the plural of cunt is cunts. BTW How do you feel about reviewing the sequel to 'Org's Odyssey?' . . . It exists, oh yes it does, the cunt changed his pen name but it's still the same cunt (he's such a cunt event the other Furries think he's a cunt - fucking otters with dolphin tails and angel wings? . . . What a total and complete and utter bastard of a cunt) Aaron
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2014 6:06:12 GMT -8
I was going to say something about enjoying listening to the Orccon recap...but I got distracted by a discussion about Lego Bricks and Cunts... I..I got nothing now.
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Post by sbloyd on Feb 20, 2014 6:41:17 GMT -8
Just don't get Lego bricks IN your cunt...
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Post by D.T. Pints on Feb 20, 2014 8:57:12 GMT -8
Or construct a cunt out of lego bricks...(going to google now...turning off safe search...aaaaaand.) or or There...now that wasn't so bad. fray ? Waddya got ? By the way I love how we who didn't get to go to OrcCon have with loving passive aggressiveness totally derailed this thread. 1114 was probably the BEST, most coherent podcast from one of the cons as far as "what did I learn" thingy. So, we the loyal douchebags take such sage advice and bury it under a fuck ton of the above rambling inanity. I do think we are the best forum in the world.
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