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Mote 26
Mar 31, 2017 12:25:21 GMT -8
Post by Probie Tim on Mar 31, 2017 12:25:21 GMT -8
I just think I know Tim's style enough that he wouldn't do the Path thing. Personally, generally, I would not adopt a path; I like the idea of one fighting a losing battle to keep one's humanity. To me, switching to some alternate approach which legitimizes some of the things you have to fight against to keep your humanity... having that "out", so to speak... kinda lessens the "personal horror" aspect of the game. But that's just me, and that's a general statement. I won't sit here and say that I would never, ever, ever play a vampire on a path, because the right combination of story and setting might make it appealing. But generally speaking, it's not something I have an eye on exploring. In Skully's case specifically, I would definitely not take a path. He would degenerate to the point where his beast completely takes over, he puts on clown makeup, and hunts children from the sewers. NPC city, baybee! My stance is that making the Sabbat available as PCs is the worst thing WW did for the Vampire line For what it's worth, I concur. The Sabbat should have stayed as scary monsters for the scary monsters. But it's a grognard-y opinion and I know it. Grognards of the world, unite and glare balefully at all the youngins!
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sbloyd
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Mote 26
Mar 31, 2017 12:26:47 GMT -8
Post by sbloyd on Mar 31, 2017 12:26:47 GMT -8
So now I have to do a Skully/Pennywise fanart is what you're saying...
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Mote 26
Mar 31, 2017 12:30:44 GMT -8
Post by Probie Tim on Mar 31, 2017 12:30:44 GMT -8
So now I have to do a Skully/Pennywise fanart is what you're saying... As Rocket Raccoon once said, "Oh... yeah!"
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Mote 26
Apr 3, 2017 12:15:02 GMT -8
Post by sovereigncitizenkane on Apr 3, 2017 12:15:02 GMT -8
I will say, I've ha some enjoyable Sabbat games, though I keep them incredibly rare for the simple reason that despite best efforts, it eventually turns into a exercise of who can be the best monster while still fitting into a path. Vaulderie also presents a challenge for player agency.
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Mote 26
Apr 5, 2017 11:00:49 GMT -8
Post by cursedmonkey on Apr 5, 2017 11:00:49 GMT -8
Fortunate that Stew did not know the humanity auto-loss rule from the double diablerie 😁
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Mote 26
Apr 5, 2017 13:33:49 GMT -8
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Post by sovereigncitizenkane on Apr 5, 2017 13:33:49 GMT -8
Fortunate that Stew did not know the humanity auto-loss rule from the double diablerie 😁 I'm honestly forgetting at this moment if that was changed for V20. Could have sworn in Revised, you still got to roll.
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sbloyd
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Mote 26
Apr 5, 2017 13:45:24 GMT -8
Post by sbloyd on Apr 5, 2017 13:45:24 GMT -8
"Lastly, for Camarilla vampires and others who adhere to the way of Humanity, there is the loss of Humanity to consider. Diablerie is worse than murder: The Amaranth literally absorbs the victim’s soul, destroying any chance of the victim finding peace in the afterlife. Such a heinous crime strips a minimum of one Humanity dot from the character’s Humanity rating. Additionally, for extremely vicious attacks, the Storyteller might require a Conscience roll (difficulty 8). Failure means the loss of an additional Humanity point, while a botch could well mean the loss of even more."
Page 295, VTM20.
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Mote 26
Apr 5, 2017 14:08:32 GMT -8
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Post by sovereigncitizenkane on Apr 5, 2017 14:08:32 GMT -8
sbloyd I remember that part. Used it quite recently. I was just saying, I think I remember it not being automatic in Revised which is where Tim might have been confused.
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sbloyd
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Mote 26
Apr 5, 2017 14:12:10 GMT -8
Post by sbloyd on Apr 5, 2017 14:12:10 GMT -8
Will check shortly.
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Mote 26
Apr 5, 2017 14:23:36 GMT -8
Post by sbloyd on Apr 5, 2017 14:23:36 GMT -8
It's word for word the same in Revised, p226.
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Mote 26
Apr 5, 2017 22:46:39 GMT -8
Post by Starteller on Apr 5, 2017 22:46:39 GMT -8
Jessie (Esmeralda) need help on how to play and provoke stories for herself. She seems often bored. She could have smashed cameras and gather people for violence against 1984 intrusion of society. Go to bars, provoke fights and make a name for herself as a gang leader or something like that. Ghoul people, get money through many means with other players. Steal cars, motorcycles, do street races. Arson, stealing, being hired as a bounty hunter. With another player with charm, she could charm a rich guy to commit a crime then be caught, be on bail, jump bail then caught him and split the money with the charming friend. $$$,$$$,$$$
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Post by Starteller on Apr 6, 2017 9:10:41 GMT -8
Also, Jessie didn't get her 7 XP points for session 23 since she missed session 24 and GM didn't remember her at session 25
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shinigamitwo
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Mote 26
Apr 6, 2017 14:17:24 GMT -8
Post by shinigamitwo on Apr 6, 2017 14:17:24 GMT -8
Not to throw my favorite lispy fucker under the bus, but Kimi/Adriane might want to read up on the Second Tradition. Most Princes I run/have encountered in my game are of the "I have domain, you have a nice building" mind set which would take Skully's anger over the sewer wander as a sign he might be trying to/has already declared himself Prince of the Sewers. That isn't to say some don't take a much more lenient view.
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Mote 26
Apr 6, 2017 16:44:48 GMT -8
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Post by sovereigncitizenkane on Apr 6, 2017 16:44:48 GMT -8
It's word for word the same in Revised, p226. I guess I'm just getting old.
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Mote 26
Apr 6, 2017 16:46:41 GMT -8
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Post by sovereigncitizenkane on Apr 6, 2017 16:46:41 GMT -8
You know, there's a bunch of other vampires just sitting around the island, yet there's no Primogen from anything. Would be good for Adrianne to declare them so she could get a few closer alliances.
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