tappy
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Post by tappy on Apr 21, 2018 21:49:24 GMT -8
There is a PBTA Wrestling game that is perfect for GLOW type shit called "World Wide Wrestling"
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Post by Gillsing on Apr 22, 2018 5:18:33 GMT -8
Players wishing their characters were more powerful makes me think of viewers who complain about the main character in an anime series not being powerful enough. Maybe some people just enjoy stories about powerful protagonists more than stories about struggling protagonists? Would go hand in hand with a GM complaining about the players not doing the 'right things' and thereby being more successful in the game.
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nevvur
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Post by nevvur on Apr 22, 2018 6:46:44 GMT -8
"Watching Critical Role to learn how to play role playing games is like watching porn to learn how to have sex."
Possibly the greatest thing I've heard this year.
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Post by The Northman on Apr 22, 2018 17:32:28 GMT -8
Man...I have had a way experience in PbP than anyone on the show, apparently. The ones I've participated in have been really rad; mashups between collaborative short stories and rpg games.
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Post by joecrak on Apr 23, 2018 4:19:19 GMT -8
There is a PBTA Wrestling game that is perfect for GLOW type shit called "World Wide Wrestling" Preach the good word Brother!
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Post by joecrak on Apr 23, 2018 4:21:56 GMT -8
Re: doing cool WWE style moves in a non wrestling game.
Sounded like PC was playing a monk, so what's the problem? I can understand if they roll too low consistently that it would be frustrating.
But let them describe those suplexes, DDTs, neckbreakers, and diamond cutters to their hearts content. It's all just flavor and doesn't affect the mechanics in any way.
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Post by OFTHEHILLPEOPLE on Apr 23, 2018 5:52:26 GMT -8
"Watching Critical Role to learn how to play role playing games is like watching porn to learn how to have sex." Possibly the greatest thing I've heard this year. A million times YES. At my FLGS all I hear out of the D&D tables is "Mathew Mercer does it this way" and "Critical Role does that". Stop.
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Post by OFTHEHILLPEOPLE on Apr 23, 2018 6:54:04 GMT -8
Guys, if we're having Stu watch Roughnecks at least warn him about the god awful early years CGI...
The series is kind of a bastard mashup between the Verhoven universe and the book.
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Post by willh on Apr 23, 2018 7:58:37 GMT -8
I think Starship Troopers would work best as two movies in the Full Metal Jacket format. Movie one covers training and the war up to when Johnny goes to OCS. Movie two is OCS and his deployment at the end of OCS.
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Post by OFTHEHILLPEOPLE on Apr 23, 2018 8:07:46 GMT -8
From a storytelling perspective that might work but from a marketability perspective you would need to nail that first movie at the box office or someone goes to Producer/Director jail for a while.
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Post by ursusmaritimus on Apr 23, 2018 9:16:38 GMT -8
"Armor" by John Steakley is set in a Starship Troopers-like setting (or maybe the Starship Troopers setting) but focuses less on the political/social commentary. I think the author even said at one point that it is an homage to Starship Troopers but that Heinlein couldn't write action. I haven't read it for a number a years but my recollection is that it could be a good resource for more world/universe building for a game.
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Post by RudeAlert on Apr 23, 2018 13:33:42 GMT -8
"Watching Critical Role to learn how to play role playing games is like watching porn to learn how to have sex." Possibly the greatest thing I've heard this year. A million times YES. At my FLGS all I hear out of the D&D tables is "Mathew Mercer does it this way" and "Critical Role does that". Stop. I've recently started to feel like watching Critical Role might have actually adversely affected my enjoyment of playing RPGs. I know they're all professional performers and one should not expect every game to have that caliber of role-playing but still, it really is like watching too much porn. As entertaining as it may be to watch, it can kind of mess with your standards and expectations, and ultimately get in the way of your own enjoyment when you're the one engaging in the activity in question.
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Post by OFTHEHILLPEOPLE on Apr 23, 2018 14:07:24 GMT -8
A million times YES. At my FLGS all I hear out of the D&D tables is "Mathew Mercer does it this way" and "Critical Role does that". Stop. I've recently started to feel like watching Critical Role might have actually adversely affected my enjoyment of playing RPGs. I know they're all professional performers and one should not expect every game to have that caliber of role-playing but still, it really is like watching too much porn. As entertaining as it may be to watch, it can kind of mess with your standards and expectations, and ultimately get in the way of your own enjoyment when you're the one engaging in the activity in question. The same thing happened with the Penny Arcade PAX games.
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tappy
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Post by tappy on Apr 24, 2018 9:40:33 GMT -8
A million times YES. At my FLGS all I hear out of the D&D tables is "Mathew Mercer does it this way" and "Critical Role does that". Stop. I've recently started to feel like watching Critical Role might have actually adversely affected my enjoyment of playing RPGs. I know they're all professional performers and one should not expect every game to have that caliber of role-playing but still, it really is like watching too much porn. As entertaining as it may be to watch, it can kind of mess with your standards and expectations, and ultimately get in the way of your own enjoyment when you're the one engaging in the activity in question. So what you are saying is that they are too good? I think their effect on the hobby is VERY positive, but I think it is now becoming vogue in some groups to shit all over Critical Role for whatever reason. Fuck, Matt is the one who popularized, if not outright created, the phenomenon that is Actual Play, which we now do a lot of in HJRPG. I remember him telling me about this idea back when he was on the show back in the way early seasons. He worked CRAZY hard to make that show what it is, along with the rest of the cast. They have spent a lifetime becoming good actors and spent years crafting a creating how actual plays work and making RPGs known. They are the world's first professional role-players, how cool is that? The promote the hobby, promote content creators, and are literal content creators themselves. Do we really have to shit all over them in order to face our own games? Do you have to hate FIFA if you are going to play soccer on the weekends? Must you despise Alex Honnold to get into a climbing gym? If people like how Matt or CR do things, cool! We are in an age where experienced GMs can pass along techniques that other players and GMs might like and incorporate into their games. THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT OUR PODCAST IS ABOUT. We don't have to muddle around in shitty methods and practices for 10 years anymore. Matt Mercer gives a great example of one way to run D&D that is really fun and engaging. If people like that, awesome. If people want to emulate the players, there are resources for that too. take some improve classes on the weekend, or even some acting classes. Practice is what makes you better, if you actually want to do it. People work out to be better at hobby sports all the time, why is role playing any different? CR is like watching porn because you, the viewer, have no idea how much it takes to get to that point, and it looks like it just happens. The Poxy Boggards are a similar phenomenon. It LOOKS like they are a bunch of drunken fools, doing fucking who knows what, and anyone can go up there and be just as good. But what you don't know is that there are DECADES of practice and refinement to get to the point where you can look like a chaotic drunken clusterfuck and still sound amazing.. and repeat the same show 4 times a day. You can't just jump in and be Matt right off the bat. Doing so will be embarrassing and painful, much like if you jumped straight to anal fisting. THAT is the simile... not that watching it diminishes you enjoyment of RPGs much like the watching of porn diminishes your enjoyment of sex. If watching porn diminishes your enjoyment of sex, you are doing it wrong. If watching baseball diminishes your enjoyment of your weekend league, you are doing it wrong. If watching "bassmasters" makes you want to give up your angling ways, you are doing it wrong. People being good at something doesn't mean that your skill level is any less valid. A bunch of the Critical Role humans are friends of mine, FIGHT ME.
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Post by OFTHEHILLPEOPLE on Apr 24, 2018 10:04:30 GMT -8
That's the rub, CR is fine and dandy. That isn't what we are talking about, it's the closed minded elitism of "if it isn't gaming like Critical Role then it's crap". Hell, I listen to the pods of the show and find it entertaining. What I don't find entertaining is being told I'm "not doing it right because Matt Mercer is the DM King of the right and true way of DMing". You know, fan players with expectations of Normal Joe DMs who lack the said years of work to get to Matt or CR standing of excellence and thus judged.
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