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Post by Kainguru on Oct 25, 2012 10:13:15 GMT -8
No, I think Eric was making a general observation and saying that people should talk things out and say what they've got say rather than 'declining to comment' . . .ie: taking the moral high ground didn't work as the troll won seeing as he successfully stirred things up to hurt a long time contributor to this forum. I believe that this might have been this particular trolls agenda all along and, in fact, I don't think the label 'troll' quite fits . . . as most 'trolls' aren't creepy internet stalkers . . . . addit: Please guys refer to me as 'Aaron' in post . . . cause that's my name and it's disconcerting reading a direct reference that uses my preferred internet gaming handle (though some creep has tried to steal it from me in the past . . . so I register it everywhere I go to keep it active)
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Post by ericfromnj on Oct 25, 2012 10:47:12 GMT -8
LOL. jfever it happens a lot of other places than here.
People is plural, not meant to be targeted specifically at you. Honestly I remembered more of the fact that you wrote the MSWord Document and forgot about the first sentence in that post, though I still find the experience of not having the time for the flame war but having time for the commentary afterward odd...
Mind you odd is less "You are weird" and more "I really don't understand your frame of reference"
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Post by Kainguru on Oct 26, 2012 9:55:29 GMT -8
I'm pretty certain I've found our little Troll's lair on the interwebs . . . he has *cleverly* used the same handle (fuck me hasn't he heard of google) and is a regular and (from reading some of his posts) obnoxious contributor to a forum board called 'minmaxboards.com' (affiliated with the 'brilliant gameologists podcast'). Wasn't too sure at first but I just read one of his posts and the tone, style and attitude almost exactly mirrors that of his behaviour here. I think it's time to slip on some sock puppets and do unto others . . . (and he's annoyed some people over on the other board as well . . . )
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Post by jfever on Oct 27, 2012 12:14:43 GMT -8
Maybe it's just me, but if I put a "flame war" type comment on anything (i.e. facebook) it stays in my mind for a while. Maybe it was the catholic guilt instilled in my when I was young, but I start questioning myself and whether I was right in putting the comment. Then, either way, I anticipate the response. It bugs me for days until the response shows up.
I don't mind talking about it to you guys now, because of 2 reasons. 1. I know everyone else hates him as much as I do. 2. I know he won't even pay attention to this, so I don't feel any guilt at all.
Also, like I said, CC was looking for legitimate responses to his question on that thread. Me bad talking that guy on that thread wouldn't have been on the subject at all. So, instead of marring CC's efforts, I just stopped commenting on the thread.
Ultimately, I'm sad that CC was a casualty of that (if he in fact was). But I am also glad that that one twat (I should get his fuckin name) won't show up any more, as he was obviously only paying attention to only CC's posts.
In summary, I feel like starting a flame war with someone when it's on the subject is more okay then just stepping in and being a fuckin dick with disregard for the thread, the forum, and it's members.
Still . . . . . I do get what ya'll are saying about calling him out on it, in defense of this forum. Because if we don't, then it will just keep going on.
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Post by Kainguru on Oct 27, 2012 13:22:17 GMT -8
I've not joined the other forum yet because I don't want to upset it's legitimate users too much: in reading the guys posts over there he's just as much a twatting cunt as he was over here . . . just much more prolific due to length of time. I think the only reason he stays there, and left here so very quickly once his damage was done, is because he has a very small group of fanboy jism lickers in toe to stroke his hugely inflated ego. In one thread he's responding to a question about 2e vs 3e (as differences) and he criticises an aspect of 2e by directly quoting (with an SRD link) the 3e polymorph spell as the reason 2e was broken and no one calls him out on this painfully obvious error of logic (ie: the 3e version of the spell is 3e not 2e) . . . possibly due to a fear of his enraged munchkin nerdjism traversing the internet and infecting their browsers with his arsecrap . . . PS: and yeah, though I decline to elaborate for reasons of discretion , CC has been an indirect casualty of this particular Trolls pursuit of him across the internet . . . and that makes me sad. Whether anyone agreed with CC's perspective or not we as a community shouldn't allow this to happen precisely because we are the community that we are . . . it's been said often enough how much shit we have had to put up with in the past because we are 'gamers' (you know "the satan wanking goat fucker" stare we've all received at least once in the past) . . . so maybe we should stand up for, and by, each other (despite differences of opinions) and kick this trollshite into touch . . .
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Post by malifer on Oct 27, 2012 17:38:37 GMT -8
Funny story: So my wife and I are in the studio on Saturday afternoon recording the next Wives' CD, and she sees the email document sitting the uncomfortable hunk of couch and picks it up and starts reading it. Her: <gasp> "I can't believe he called you *that* word!" Me: "Huh?" Her: "This one here. 'Good Morrow C-word.' " Me: <laugh> Her: "Are all your listeners this abusive?" That is pretty hilarious.
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Post by malifer on Oct 27, 2012 17:45:57 GMT -8
Flame War? I have know idea what anyone is talking about. That's fine I don't really care since it seems to have annoyed the hell out of everyone. What probably happened was there was a popular thread and I thought about reading it, but then realized it was long and I said nah I think I'll go play tug of war with cyclops instead.
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Post by Kainguru on Oct 28, 2012 4:20:31 GMT -8
Flame War? I have know idea what anyone is talking about. That's fine I don't really care since it seems to have annoyed the hell out of everyone. What probably happened was there was a popular thread and I thought about reading it, but then realized it was long and I said nah I think I'll go play tug of war with cyclops instead. It wasn't so much as a 'flame war' as we were trolled in the worst way . . . the troll was targeting a particular forum user and using this forum as part of an ongoing personal attack against that person. This troll had pursued CC across the internet starting his attack thru facebook. The actual discussion in contention isn't what has annoyed some . . . it's the fact that the troll started it for more than kicks and giggles as there was a real and personal consequence to one user of this forum . . . and that's something we should all care about. NB: 'troll' isn't the right word 'cyberstalking ratcunt' would be more accurate . . .
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Post by Kainguru on Oct 28, 2012 12:53:56 GMT -8
The word Cunt: My step father* has reminded me that there is one other ethnic group who also use the word cunt as frivolously as Australians - it's your standard issue cockney bastard eg Bricktop from Snatch "Do you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible cunt... me". * - 'es a cockney born n breed. (Usually cockneys use a liberal smattering of rhyming slang interspersed with the word cunt and muppet THEN they shank you while you're still trying to decipher WTF they just said)
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Post by arturick on Oct 28, 2012 14:39:38 GMT -8
Hey, I use this handle on every message board, since I don't really have anything to hide. Just expressing my opinions about a fucking game and all that. My usual stomping ground is minmaxboards.com, and anyone who wants to take a look around is welcome to. If you do stop by, you'll find kainguru posting as "DynamicIP." He's accusing me of posting a link to the 3.0 SRD to cite rules for 2E Polymorph... I don't recall 3.0 polymorph being more than 1 shape. Still, multiple shapes feels kinda nuts. From the 3.0 spell Polymorph Self in the SRD:It was like a weaker version of Shapechange. And it was on the ranger's spell list. So, yeah, that was posted by someone who wasn't me, and it was related to a tangential discussion of 3.0 vs. 3.5 Polymorph, so it wasn't even something dumb. I also have no idea who this CC guy is on any other board, much less Facebook. He immediately rubbed me the wrong way and I argued with him. If that made him leave the forum in a huff, then he seriously needs some Preparation H for his butthurt. So, I'm looking forward to kainguru's future attempts to be the righteous motherfuckin' defender of the internet, chasing down vile trolls like myself. What a fucking nut.
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Post by Kainguru on Oct 28, 2012 15:23:20 GMT -8
Not defending the internet but interested that you came back here after all was said and done . . . all I did was shake the branches a little to see what would happen. Like I've PM'ed in response to your question CC was being hounded by someone thru the internet . . . your posting behaviour mirrored that of the earlier poster JFever referred to: they joined, posted, left. As to my points on min/max you didn't address them . . . and they were valid points . . . my main criticism was why you had answered a different question to the one asked? and I challenged your interpretation of the 2e rules you quoted. I genuinely disagreed with your blanket summation of their interpretation. Should we all be so callous as to dismiss someone leaving a forum?? Why not defend them? Why not defend a community we enjoy being a part of? . . . You came, you posted, you left I simply returned the compliment . . . I gather you found it rather annoying, even galling, despite your cavalier attitude. Unlike you I did not go to your preferred forum and directly challenge it's beliefs or insult it's users or it's ethos . . . to be honest your posts stood out and prompted a response for the reason I gave at the time: the OP asked "What did 1e or 2e do better than 3.x/PF?" and your reply was "nothing" followed by answers to the question "Why 1e and 2e suck compared to 3.x/PF".
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Post by HyveMynd on Oct 28, 2012 16:33:08 GMT -8
Re: the above two messages, I'd like to quote Johnny Storm, if I may. Ahem. ;D "FLAME ON!" ;D
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Post by Kainguru on Oct 28, 2012 16:41:39 GMT -8
Re: the above two messages, I'd like to quote Johnny Storm, if I may. Ahem. ;D "FLAME ON!" ;D Fuck Yeah or to use my poor excuse for cockney rhyming slang 'It's a Fuckn Outside Drain (flame) Door Whore (war) ya Cunts'
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Post by malifer on Oct 28, 2012 17:14:52 GMT -8
Hey, I use this handle on every message board, since I don't really have anything to hide. Just expressing my opinions about a fucking game and all that. My usual stomping ground is minmaxboards.com, and anyone who wants to take a look around is welcome to. If you do stop by, you'll find kainguru posting as "DynamicIP." He's accusing me of posting a link to the 3.0 SRD to cite rules for 2E Polymorph... So, yeah, that was posted by someone who wasn't me, and it was related to a tangential discussion of 3.0 vs. 3.5 Polymorph, so it wasn't even something dumb. I also have no idea who this CC guy is on any other board, much less Facebook. He immediately rubbed me the wrong way and I argued with him. If that made him leave the forum in a huff, then he seriously needs some Preparation H for his butthurt. So, I'm looking forward to kainguru's future attempts to be the righteous motherfuckin' defender of the internet, chasing down vile trolls like myself. What a fucking nut. Umm...you really don't need to copy & re-post from threads of other boards to show how much you WIN at arguments on the internets and then call the other person a "nut". Skipping straight to the nut bit would have been more efficient and seemed slightly more rational. Also, and this is really just advice in seeming like a functional sociopath take it or leave it, when someone, who may clearly be out of line, calls you a "cyberstalker" it is probably best not to respond by saying for instance Mr. X from Board 1 = Mr. Y on Board 2. I did like the bit about using the same 'handle" because you have nothing to hide. That is funny.
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Post by malifer on Oct 28, 2012 17:19:58 GMT -8
Should we all be so callous as to dismiss someone leaving a forum?? Why not defend them? Why not defend a community we enjoy being a part of? . . . You came, you posted, you left I simply returned the compliment . . . I gather you found it rather annoying, even galling, despite your cavalier attitude. Unlike you I did not go to your preferred forum and directly challenge it's beliefs or insult it's users or it's ethos . . . to be honest your posts stood out and prompted a response for the reason I gave at the time: the OP asked "What did 1e or 2e do better than 3.x/PF?" and your reply was "nothing" followed by answers to the question "Why 1e and 2e suck compared to 3.x/PF". Too oversimplify, I think everyone could probably agree with the idea that since one side is allowed to waste their time writing stupid shit, then the other side is allowed to waste their time to defend against it with their own stupid shit. So the idea of then attacking and defending the idea of attacking and defending is moot.
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