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Mote 31
Aug 1, 2017 19:46:35 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Aug 1, 2017 19:46:35 GMT -8
There IS a bloodhunt on childer of Sebastien, and that's what the two who were eaten were. Just FYI. Yes they are pretty hohum about diablerie. We'll have a humanity review before next session. For the record though, blood hunts don't necessarily allow for Diablerie, though it certainly can be more easily overlooked in such situations.
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Post by SirGuido on Aug 1, 2017 23:16:07 GMT -8
Before my post there were 10 posts. 8 were "this is what you're doing wrong" and 1 was a player defending against those posts. That's all I'm saying. Alright, I got some time to kill so let's have some fun with this. Before your first post:Starteller Post 1: A minor correction about vampire senses along with a suggestion on how to approach it in the rules. Starteller Post 2: Again a minor correction about initiative, along with a suggestion to keep track of combat stats to facilitate their use in the future. Starteller Post 3: A rather amusing and original suggestion on how to use a Discipline in a certain situation. No corrections here. Starteller Post 4: A mention of a houserule that he uses in his home games. No corrections here either. Starteller Post 5: A mistaken tracking correction about Samantha not tracking her Humanity loss (for the record she did) along with a mention of how she might be low enough now to suffer penalties as a result. He also mentioned how the game seems to be heading in a more Sabbat/Anarchs direction than Camarilla, but then again he also said he found that interesting. So does that still count as criticism? Starteller Post 6: I believe Starteller is wrong about this correction, in that I think she already keeps track of the blood cost of "Dirt Nap." Though the following example of Discipline and combat info tracking can be useful. RudeAlert Post 1 (7 total): MY WALL OF TEXT!!!! Two minor corrections followed by a lengthier diatribe about the effects of Diablerie and Humanity loss in the game. You can't deny that they've been pretty cavalier about Diablerie, murder, and Humanity loss overall. Humanity is a BIG part of the game's theme and presumed play-style. Now I could have just said: "YOU'RE WRONG FUCK YOU!!!" but I preferred a more detailed approach, with helpful page references even (I know how massive and poorly organized the book is). Starteller Post 7 (8 total): More or less corroborating my post along with further details about Justicars and vampire rules. StrangeLikeThat (Mac) Post 1 (8 total): I wouldn't say she was "defending" against anything, rather pointing out her character's position on the matter of Diablerie and Humanity, which I totally agree with, Asa has no clue so she's doing what feels right or good in the moment and that's totally fine. If I had had a problem with her reply I wouldn't have given it a "Like." In total, Starteller had 7 posts, two of which didn't even contain any corrections at all, but just suggestions based on his own approach or house-rules. Two others had pretty quick and minor corrections. However, even the ones that were more correction-heavy also came with suggestions on how to facilitate things in the future. As for my post, well like I said above, since it's related to some pretty important parts of the game/setting I didn't want to just gloss over it and dumb it down to a meaningless "YOU'RE WRONG!" I wanted to delve deeper into it to ideally outline the situation as clearly as possible, hence all the page references that I so rudely provided. Honestly, if Starteller had simply put all his points in a single post, that whole thing would have looked a whole lot less intimidating, but I suspect he did what I've also done in the past and just post separate comments as they came, presumably while watching the episode. In short SirGuido no one can control how you choose to see things but you. If you want to see this in the most negative light possible, have at it, there's nothing I can do to change that (regarding the length of this post, like I said, I had time to kill). I love this AP and I won't stop trying to help make it as good as it can be. I'm also not overly worried about the players or GM being too thin-skinned to not be able to take critiques, suggestions, and yes even criticism, in the spirit in which it was given. You might have time but I don't. I'm not going to argue with you. I've said my piece.
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Post by Starteller on Aug 2, 2017 9:54:12 GMT -8
I don't know how you guys do it man, I really don't. I mean I'm not even playing and seeing like 10 posts about what you're doing wrong makes me want to go jump off a bridge. Wow, YOU are the one take this too seriously. There nothing bad by pointing out rules mistakes and giving suggestions. This is just a game. YOU are taking this too seriously. Calm down. It is just a game. Wow, how are you dealing with real criticisms from real issues?
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Mote 31
Aug 2, 2017 13:46:12 GMT -8
Post by sbloyd on Aug 2, 2017 13:46:12 GMT -8
C'mon, guys. Chill.
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Mote 31
Aug 2, 2017 15:01:00 GMT -8
Post by StrangeLikeThat on Aug 2, 2017 15:01:00 GMT -8
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Mote 31
Aug 2, 2017 16:27:14 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Aug 2, 2017 16:27:14 GMT -8
Weeelllll, I'd much rather have a cake made of my crushed enemies and the lamentations of their women buuuut... I guess in a pinch, rainbows and smiles will do.
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Mote 31
Aug 2, 2017 16:33:43 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Aug 2, 2017 16:33:43 GMT -8
By the way, just to clarify things I'd like to point out that at no point in this thread was I even slightly miffed or motivated by anything resembling negative emotions. At most I was kinda taken aback by SirGuido's interpretation of Starteller's posts and mine so I figured I'd spell out my position on things and that's pretty much it as far as I'm concerned. I suppose I was a bit bothered at being called rude but so little that I only remembered that as I was typing this post.
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Mote 31
Aug 2, 2017 16:39:27 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Aug 2, 2017 16:39:27 GMT -8
And now for something completely different! I'm not sure who to ask for this since Sam redpandroid rarely seems to post so I'll direct this at Stu Venable . SPOILERS
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Mote 31
Aug 2, 2017 17:04:57 GMT -8
Post by Starteller on Aug 2, 2017 17:04:57 GMT -8
Suggestion: Stu, you should make a print out of the Humanity sheet for the player to see during play If they find the path of Humanity too restrictive and no fun they could change like Stork did but warn them the Camarilla required their members to follow that "path" I know "path" is a Sabbat term, but since I'm an Anarch Vampire, I believe Camarilla "Humanity" and Sabbat "paths" are both doctrines forced on their members so they are the same
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Mote 31
Aug 2, 2017 17:21:16 GMT -8
Post by flyingjackelope on Aug 2, 2017 17:21:16 GMT -8
I feel like this has been the most vampire thing anyone outside of Tim has done. I was at work and had just enough time between calls to hear it and it was glorious.
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Mote 31
Aug 2, 2017 17:39:33 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Aug 2, 2017 17:39:33 GMT -8
I feel like this has been the most vampire thing anyone outside of Tim has done. I was at work and had just enough time between calls to hear it and it was glorious. Seriously! This is such a brilliant way to take the big Bullseye off her back while still retaining a good deal of power.
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Mote 31
Aug 2, 2017 20:11:37 GMT -8
Post by flyingjackelope on Aug 2, 2017 20:11:37 GMT -8
Stu Venable , I can't remember which episode had the chess board, but in case it comes up again. If you're unsure of how to play more intelligently, open this site and play against the machine on the highest level. Whatever move the PC makes is your own. Whatever move the Machine makes is the NPC's. It probably won't come up again, but this way your world class chess master never gets pwned by chance.
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Mote 31
Aug 2, 2017 20:15:48 GMT -8
Post by RudeAlert on Aug 2, 2017 20:15:48 GMT -8
Stu Venable , I can't remember which episode had the chess board, but in case it comes up again. If you're unsure of how to play more intelligently, open this site and play against the machine on the highest level. Whatever move the PC makes is your own. Whatever move the Machine makes is the NPC's. It probably won't come up again, but this way your world class chess master never gets pwned by chance. hahaha that's so brilliant and beautifully underhanded, perfect for a Vampire game
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Post by Stu Venable on Aug 3, 2017 6:35:37 GMT -8
Sam and I had discussed a few different options, but I wasn't sure which she'd pick. So I was caught partially off guard.
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Post by vyrrk on Aug 3, 2017 9:22:18 GMT -8
I don't know how you guys do it man, I really don't. I mean I'm not even playing and seeing like 10 posts about what you're doing wrong makes me want to go jump off a bridge. I've come to realize there are 2 types of people in the world, those that go on vacation and tell you all the bad parts of it first, then those that tell you all the awesome things first. Both groups had a good time, it's just how they tell you. People often feel they need to tell the hosts all they do wrong. Not because they see it as rude, but because they just are trying to honestly help. Some could see that as being rude or mean. And you can tell it's a sore point for a couple of the hosts since they bring it up more and more. But I think most are used to it. i don't know if it's right or wrong, but I think Stu and the crew are just happy we interact about it at all. If we all just enjoyed silently this forum would just be the "What are you eating" thread. Im not belittling your opinion, just giving another perspective. I actually agree with you.
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